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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Other than a few hockey players and lots of attractive women who seem to enjoy doing porn there is not much Russia offers the rest of the world for culture or any real value.

After Russia loses in Ukraine I hope the country spends a few decades evolving into something tolerable.  [/quote]

Most of "Russia's" culture and history actually came from Ukraine.  They even stole the name Russia from the Kievan Rus.[/quote]

:shock: Did you attend college?[/quote]

Yes.

Did you?  Did you know that Ukrainian Cyrillic is older than Russian Cyrillic?  Did you know that the founding documents for your capitol, Moscow, are in the Ukrainian archives - and why?  (psst, it's because they chartered founded it, Kyiv was already a city when Moscow was nothing)[/quote]

You say this like it means anything.[/quote]

Whatever propaganda and revisionism you learned in your Russian schools is of no interest to me[/quote]

Ukrainians will fight a counter-insurgency until the end of time if necessary. This war is unwinnable for Russians in any kind of conventional sense. They will never take Kyiv or Lviv or any part of western Ukraine. The difficult reality though is that a genuine victory is dependent on the success of Ukraine's counter-offensive this Spring and Summer. There isn't enough ammunition to sustain this level of warfare, Both sides are holding back right now, but when it's on they are launching 25,000 shells a day. That is not how NATO fights. This is an old-timey WWI war with trenches and artillery duals combined with drones and precision weapons. The world has never seen anything like this. It's absolutely brutal. And it's not sustainable. No one planned for this kind of war in Europe. Either Ukraine breaks through this year or this goes on for years.

But if Russia does something really stupid - tactical nukes, crossing the line into Poland or the Baltics - and NATO does get genuinely involved, this war is done in four weeks. The stuff we send to Ukraine is old. Russia has no answer to modern western weapon systems. Regardless, strategically, the invasion of Ukraine is a catastrophe for Russia. The impacts will last for generations. Would be surprised if the Russian Federation survives. Xi Jinping's visit to Moscow was almost predatory.  
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DP but I agree. I think it will last for years though. There will be no breakthrough and Russia is stupid but not that stupid to involve NATO
I am telling you, it’s like covid. First it was a fight to save all the old ladies in nursing homes but now everyone is tired of it and wants to get on with their lives 
I give the world another year to get tired of this war [/quote]

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