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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you ask someone to work for you for full time hours, but don't pay them enough to reasonably sustain themselves, [b]you've essentially got yourself an indentured servant.[/b] Are we really okay with that as a country? Having an underclass of indentured servants that we allow the merchant class to abuse and treat however they want?[/quote]

If you offer someone a job and tell them upfront the wage you are willing to pay, and the person says YES to your offer, then you’ve got yourself an employee who has entered into an at-will agreement to work for you at the wage you both agreed upon.

And in most cases, the wage is very clearly indicated in the job posting. The “indentured servant” need not apply to that job of the wage is not suitable to them.[/quote]

Buddy, you ever been hungry? [/quote]

Or a day away from losing your house? Seriously, everyone arguing against minimum wage needs to 1. Work a full week in a minimum wage job to see what back breaking demoralizing work it can be, and 2. Figure out how they would sustain themselves on the wage. Not just in theory. Find a place to live that allows you to get to work on time, even with minimal access to public transportation. Figure out how you're going to get to the grocery store, let alone pay for the groceries. Figure out who's going to watch your kids and who accepts childcare vouchers. [/quote]

The point from most everyone here is that you should not be working a minimum wage job as a life plan. Period. Minimum wage jobs are meant to be an entry into the work force wherein you enter with no skills and no experience. A 16-year-old getting his feet wet with a minimum wage job does not need to pay a mortgage. He then gains experience which he uses to get a better paying job. And continues to take on more responsibility and more skills such that he can command an increase for the next job. We are arguing apples and oranges because you think a person should be able to sustain a family on a minimum wage job. I do not. I agree with you that it’s insufficient to do that. I just disagree that the wage needs to change. Why would you want to incentivize someone to work their entire lives in a no-skills-requires job instead of encouraging growth of skills and mind to achieve more and be compensated for that commitment and effort?
To that end, if the goal is equality of outcome, why do we strive for anything? If in the end we will all be assigned a job and wage that is of equal value, then why would one continue to go to school and achieve more education or learn a new skill?[/quote]

You're assuming that everyone CAN learn new skills and increase their earning potential. I know that's a fantasy, and that even people who aren't bright or who lack drive deserve to earn enough from their full-time labor to eat and have decent shelter.

I'm not arguing that someone on minimum wage should earn enough to own a house or take luxury vacations. I'm saying they shouldn't have to skip meals or take vouchers from the government. [/quote]

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