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How is it fair for someone earning $50k in a DC suburb, just getting by, to have to pay $800 a month for a craoot bronze plan when someone living in Alabama earning $45k, and living comfortably, gets the same subsidized coverage for $100 a month?

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We live in a Republic, not a Democracy. [/quote]
I sure hope you're not a Democrat, with your ridiculous non sequitur.

What does the form of our representation have to do with the fact that Obama rammed through a plan that made middle-income people pay $800 a month for a catastrophic plan worth $50 a month so that the lower-income people pay $50 or $100 for the same plan? This entire thing was just a  redistribute scheme from the straight middle class (earning $50kish) to the lower-middle class (earning $35kish) and the working class ($25k) WHEN MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE EARNING $50K CANNOT AFFORD TO SUBSIDIZE HEALTH INSURANXE FOR THOSE WHO EARN LESS. And that's what OBamacare did.

Next thing you know is that the Dems will have the middle class subsidize the illegals' health insurance. Just watch.

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Most Accurate Comment of the Thread.

Thank you[/quote]
You're welcome.

And did you see the clueless liberal above who,responded by saying...."well, don't buy an ACA plan then." OMG. So I should just go without insurance because the AFFORDABLE (hah) Care Act inflated the premiums on insurance for the middle class to the point it's not affordable? [/quote]

You don't know what you are talking about. You should read more. [/quote]
I know more about it than you. I'm LIVING IT. What type of answer is it to say "well don't buy insurance then" when people report how they are being charged an unaffordable premium as a result of the Affordablr Care Act? All,of a sudden you don't care if people can't afford insurance? I bet you didn't tell low-income people who couldn't afford insurance "don't buy it then."

LIberals. sheesh.[/quote]
DP.. Rs didn't seem to care that millions couldn't afford insurance prior to ACA.  Obama tried to get everyone covered.  Some Rs refused to expand medicaid in their states.

Look at the red states that adopted the medicaid expansion.  Their people are a lot healthier now.  You think folks like ones in the article want to get rid of ACA and go back to what we had before?

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2019/04/04/kentucky-medicaid-expansion-leads-more-colon-cancer-screenings/3367111002/

Rural areas benefit most... you know.. the areas that supported Trump.  Ironic, no?

https://wfpl.org/study-kentuckys-rural-areas-benefit-most-from-medicaid-expansion/[/quote]

Ds didn't try to get everyone covered. They tried to get LOWER-income covered, even though premiums on Unsubsidized middle earners would skyrocket to the point they couldn't afford insurance.

And that's why the Ds will lose again. They care about those they see as "downtrodden" - poor people. Illegals, etc., - and a big F-U to the regular middle class working girl or guy. How many times have we heard liberals, when a middle earner (REAL middle earner....not DCUM middle earner) say she can't afford health insurance on her earnings of $50,000, be told to just get a better job? Why don't libs tell the low earners to get a better job?

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+1 and I voted for Hillary and wanted Bernie in ‘16 [url]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/463425-colbert-questions-sanders-on-middle-class-tax-hike-after-pressing-warren-on[/url]

I thought Bernie actually cared about the middle-class. Dunno if he changed his views, or if this was always as he imagined, but I personally feel betrayed, he’s just like the rest of the Democrats that care more about “inequality” than they do about the middle class. Guess what? Most people don’t want a completely [i]equal[/i] country, they just want things more [i]fair[/i] i.e. 400 billionaires NOT holding more wealth than the bottom 64% of Americans.

[quote] So what we do is exempt the first $29,000 of a person’s income, [b]you make less than $29,000, you pay [i]nothing[/i] in taxes.[/b][/quote]

If he [i]really[/i] cared about the MC, that “2” in 29,000 would be a “5” or “6”. In what world is $29,000 middle-class? I’d like to live there.

There are other ways to control costs, and not throw half of The U.S.A. off their current health plans. I [i]guarantee[/i] you most people do not want longer wait times while at the same time subsidizing the people who will add to longer waiting times (why do you think most Doctors only take so-many medicare/caid patients? The programs pay them less for more work) [b]We just want to stop paying more for less every year[/b]!!!

Just. Infuriating. Don’t [i][b]even[/b][/i] get me started how it seems like all the Democrats want to cover illegal aliens too. All while they want to keep importing poverty.[/quote]

Ok, then stop paying more for less every year. Stop paying for health insurance. Problem solved. Capitalism. You're welcome.[/quote]

Except, Obamacare outlawed the insurance policies that so many people want and need, at affordable rates.

Please bring back capitalism, you know, where supply meets demand.[/quote]

Does capitalism negate laws? Well it sounds like you have two choices. Pay for health insurance or don't. [/quote]

Imagine we passed a law that said every house must have 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, a fully modern equipped kitchen and a 900 sq feet garden at minimum.

Do you think more or less people would be able to afford housing?

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You made your choice. You voted for Trump. And despite having the Presidency and majorities in both chambers of Congress, the R's didn't repeal the ACA. The Rs know you are going to vote for them no matter what so they have no motivation to fix healthcare costs. The more expensive healthcare gets the more you blame the Democrats, despite the fact that Trump himself has acknowledged that healthcare is a really complicated issue.

So you have two choices. Buy health insurance or not. [/quote]

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