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So, I think it depends on your definition of "getting paid".  Teachers are paid for a 195 day work year.  The salary gets divided by the number of week days between the first teacher day and the last teacher day, then divided by 8 to get an hourly rate. This hourly rate will fluctuate year by year, even if the salary changes based on the number of days between the first day and the last day.  So.. you can decide are teachers paid for holidays, not really.  The salary is based on 195 work days... it doesn't matter how many weeks you spread those 195 work days  over.  If there are more calendar weeks covered and more days "off" (not teacher work days)  in using those 195 work days, the hourly rate goes down as does the bi-weekly pay check.

From the MCPS website:

"A 10-month teacher’s annual salary, divided by 215, results in the current gross daily rate of pay. For permanent teachers, the hourly rate of pay is computed by dividing the gross daily rate by 8 hours per day. The hourly rate is then multiplied by the number of hours scheduled biweekly to determine the biweekly gross pay before adjustments. Except for the first and last check, each paycheck will equal 10 times the gross daily rate of pay."[/quote]

DP than the one you are conversing with above.  Then change the description.  The point is that you are salaried.  The regular work year is 195 days.  In the real world, salaries cover 260 days of work.  However, those of us who are salaried, as opposed to hourly, work as needed.  If you need to work on a Saturday or a holiday, you do.  And you get paid the same.  If you are an exempt worker (and teachers are exempt as opposed to support service workers who are often non-exempt) then you work as needed.  An exempt worker's hourly rate does not change when they work 2-3 Saturdays a month, it is that there is unpaid overtime which is allowed for exempt workers by the FLSA (unpaid overtime is not allowed for non-exempt/hourly workers by FLSA).

I have a question.  You stipulate that the regular work year is 195 hours and yet the daily rate of pay is the salary divided by 215.  What are the other 20 days that are used to compute the daily work rate?  [/quote]

The other 20 or so days are the days teachers dont work and aren't paid for.   These take place between the start of their work year and end.  They uncle Thanksgiving break, winter and spring break, Jewish holidays, etc.

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The other 20 days are the days that teacher don't work and [b]ARE[/b] paid for.  Otherwise, they wouldn't be a part of this calculation.  I'm sure it's just one idiot but it does teachers a disservice when they play this victim card ("we don't even get paid for Thanksgiving").  Being a teachers is one of the hardest most underappreciated jobs there is.  You turn people against you by saying silly stuff like this.[/quote]

Sorry folks, please read the actual contract.  Teachers don't get paid for Thanksgiving or any other days beyond the 195.  They do get paid very well.  They do have outstanding benefits.  They are compensated very well in MCPS.  There can be no question about that.

It is a strange method used.  Teachers are paid a salary for the year.  By contract that salary is based on days they work (195).  There are no paid days (Thanksgiving for example). Those 195 days are what their salary is based on.

However, those 195 days are paid equally from start of their 1st work day to the last one.  This year that's 215 days.  Some years it's as many as 216 and some as little as 211.  That's why once the full paychecks start each years they are consistent every two weeks.   Their salary for 195 paid days is divided by 215 (this year 20 unpaid days).  That keeps the checks even.  it's why there is a common misperception that teachers are paid for days they are on vacation.

So that's anywhere from 16 to 21 days that teachers are off work and aren't paid for as part of their salary.  [b]Teachers don't get paid for Thanksgiving[/b].  They do get paid very well, with very generous benefits.

Now one could argue that those 15-21 unpaid days are really paid vacation days because the salaries are so high.  That's an entirely different (and fair) argument, but not really what is being discussed here.  
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Here you go again.  You continue to lose credibility with this union-babble.  Unfortunately, you don't have the ability to see how ridiculous you sound.  You obviously have not worked in a job outside of government.  [/quote]

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