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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow, I'm so sad to read this whole thread.  Usually this forum is so helpful, but this is almost all people bashing other posters.

I just came on to say that I often appreciate people providing arm-chair diagnoses and lawyering advice.  One of the most useful parts of this forum is to get some ideas to think about before going to talk to the professionals.  I'm often like a deer in headlights when I do talk to the professionals and thinking through possibilities before I do that is really helpful.  Also, I think a lot of us have the problem that if we see a carpenter, they diagnose a nail (or something like that) and it's often helpful for someone to say "Well, maybe instead of a carpenter, you should have seen a plumber...."  One of my BIGGEST frustrations is that there's not really one-stop shopping for figuring out how to help my kids.  For instance, we spent YEARS seeing urologists and OTs and not one of them told me that daytime urinary incontinence is a not uncommon symptom of ADHD.  So whenever I see a post about incontinence, I will suggest to the poster that they consider ADHD, because it might save them years of heartache asking why the constipation protocols and OT and whatever else they are prescribed isn't working.

Anyway, let me echo what another poster said -- assume that people responding are trying to help!  Ignore what's not helpful, and report what is truly offensive to Jeff for deletion.  [/quote]

OP here.  Helpful contributions sound like this:  "When my kid had language problems that did not resolve, I did a full neuropsych and it was really helpful in pinpointing interventions that worked."

Unhelpful PP:  "You are a crazy dipsh*t hurting your children and refusing to evaluate them and are in denial about their disorder."

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Crazy, OP, dipsh*t was used, but not crazy after many posters saying "you're projecting," "just stop," blah blah blah. Yeah, I lost my temper after repeated ignorant posts.

The fact is a 9 year old still in speech who has never had a full educational evaluation is NOT a LATE BLOOMER.  That is fact.    So telling someone that it will "just work out ok" when they've just experienced dumb luck and their kid is doing okay[i] for now[/i], is just ridiculous.  It doesn't matter if this PP ever pursues a full educational evaluation or not.  But her kids has something going on other than a late blooming delay.  They may never need an IEP or other supports--doesn't matter.  They are not late bloomers.   That ship has sailed.

So read the ASHA posts to help you understand what a language disorder is.  It is not the same thing as calling someone "disordered."  It is not an insult; it is just a fact of life.   [/quote]

Genuine question: Do you not view being in speech therapy as having merit? Nobody said on that other thread that those children were just late bloomers-they're in speech, which requires a diagnosis of at least one speech/language impairment by an SLP. Why is it so important to you that a neuropsych is done? They have a diagnosis and are making progress in their therapy. Why does the diagnosis only count, in your eyes, if it's from a clinical psychologist or dev. pediatrician? They are not experts in the field of language disorders, so, to my mind, that parent has sought out the best and most thorough evaluation for someone demonstrating language delays. If there were concerns in multiple areas of functioning you might be right, but there aren't. Head back to ASHA and read up a bit more on SLI and articulation disorders. You seem to be taking potential comorbidity with learning disabilities as a certainty rather than a possibility.[/quote]

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