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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm pro-choice because I believe women should be able to make those decisions for herself. But if you're pro-life and believe abortion is murder, there's no principled way to excuse rape victims. We wouldn't legally condone a rape victim hunting down and killing her rapist, so we certainly can't condone her murdering the baby who committed no crime against her at all.[/quote]

Yes, there is. Usually making absolutes about other people's ideas is a bad idea. [/quote]

Then please explain what makes murder of an innocent person acceptable.[/quote]

When the law doesn't consider it a "person?"[/quote]

So if conceived during consensual sex, it's a person and aborting it would be murder, but if conceived due to rape, it's not a person? How does that work? Your personhood is based on how you were conceived?[/quote]

I thought only Catholics believe life begins at conception?

The points is to avoid legislating the uterus' of women.  They are big enough to made decisions on their own bodies without state involvement.  I'd check the laws, but I believe legally life begins at birth.

I woman should never be forced to carry the fetus of a man that raped her -ever- as that is further violating her.[/quote]

while I obey the laws, I would never ever use them to define my morality.[/quote]

The exercise your CHOICE and not get an abortion.  Your morality should not dictate the discisions of another women. The law protects this.[/quote]

Different poster, but this is stupid. If you genuinely believe that innocent people are being unjustly killed, how could you ever remain silent about it?  "I know you think this is murder, but respect my right to murder someone!"[/quote]

Because an embryo or fetus, especially up till 20+ weeks is not a person. It just isn't. Equating an abortion - and something like 90+% take place in the first 14 weeks - with picking off a living, breathing human is just stupid. [/quote]

No it's not stupid. A lot of people have reasonable definitions of when life commences and there is no objectively correct answer. We can and do disagree about when life commences. But once we recognize this important distinction, it is stupid to suggest that somebody who starts from a different value judgment should respect the consequences of a differing value judgment. [/quote]

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