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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]11:18 here again.

I actually think it's similar to what happens if you are out with people and everyone eats a decadent dessert, but you eat fruit.  And then they all get kind of weird.

Humans need to have their choices validated by others.  When one or a few people abstain from something the others are doing and the reason for abstaining has an ethical dimension to it, people get mean and defensive.  They can't just live and let live.  So they either act outwardly aggressive toward you or they just kind of ignore you.

And so you'll have relatives or friends who years and years and years know you don't eat certain things but almost seem to go out of their way NOT to accommodate you.  It's because they don't want to acknowledge your choices.

Or they accommodate you but go out of their way to make snide comments in order to minimize you, to make you the pariah, to suggest your choices are a burden and annoyance and therefore they somehow gain back the ethical high ground.

The worst variety is the type who puts a LOT of pressure on your to actually eat meat.   "What, your not going to eat Turkey on Thanksgiving?"

I think that some vegetarians respond to all of the above nastiness by being obnoxious in their own way and aggressive themselves.

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This is like pot calling the kettle black? Isn't it? You wrote that people need to have their choices validated, no matter what they choose to eat?  Doesn't that apply to you as well, in which case you point out that some vegetarians respond by being aggressive themselves? That reads to me, that you are that aggressive vegetarian. I never bring up what I eat and don't eat, and there are plenty of things I don't eat even though I am a carnivore. So, I don't really see the point of your post other than to point out, that yes, many vegetarians are aggressive and needy and attention seeking. I assure you that majority of meat eaters, rarely, if ever, give another thought to vegetarians unless vegetarians bring it up. I've never been invited to dinner and said, "I eat meat," even if I am invited by vegetarians, but somehow the opposite is not the case, is it?[/quote]

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