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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous] True. Given that the majority of religious hate groups are against Jews, why isn't Obama condemning antisemitic sentiment (which is on the rise not only in Europe but here in America - on college campuses particularly). Why didn't Loretta Lynch speak out against the violence perpetrated against the Temple University Jewish student who was beaten within an inch of his life? [/quote] We are in a situation in which a major political figure is actually engaging in anti-Muslim behavior and you are asking why other politicians are not speaking out against a different kind of prejudice? I would settle for Trump not speaking out against anti-Muslim and anti-Arab sentiment, but he actually flames the fires. If there is any doubt in your mind that both Obama and Lynch strongly oppose anti-Semitism, you are delusional. What student are you referring to at Temple? [/quote] I meant Arizona State. (There was a less violent incident at Temole, and got the two mixed up. The one at Arizona State was beat badly. I'll get a link. In the meantime, here's a horrible incident against a 12-year-old. http://www.liberalamerica.org/2016/05/24/jewish-student-violently-attacked-classmates-shouted-kill-jew/[/quote] PP. OK, this is the one I was thinking of. It was Michigan State. (There was also a lesser one at Arizona, and I'm getting mixed up which hate crime occurred where.) This is the one I am thinking of. My point is that I haven't heard Obama speak out against antisemitic attacks on college campuses. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/08/28/msu-student-knocked-unconscious-mouth-stapled-shut-in-alleged-hate-crime/[/quote] The incidents that you cites are of course horrific. Obama has spoken out strongly against anti-Semitism: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-powerful-condemnation-of-anti-semitism-we-are-all-jews/2016/01/29/9b32233c-c611-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html The difference between anti-Semitism and the anti-Muslim and anti-Arab prejudice is that all American politicians routinely and categorically condemn anti-Semitism. Anti-Muslim and anti-Arab prejudice, on the other hand, is being promoted by the Republican nominee for president. Surely you can acknowledge that difference? Ironically, if there is any tolerance of anti-Semitism within American politics at all, it exists among the white nationalists/neo-Nazis supporting Trump. You may recall the infamous "sheriff's badge" or six-pointed star that Trump tweeted regarding Clinton. That originated on an anti-Semitic website. [/quote] Well, Israel is an ideological and strategic ally. Meanwhile a not-insignificant portion of the Muslim population wants us to be subject to their religious laws even if we are non-believers. I believe it's important to draw a distinction between being against a set of ideals versus being against a population that may be associated with regional practice of those ideals. Saying that we need to subject Muslim immigrants to more scrutiny is not the same as saying that we are anti-Muslim. That's a straw-man. Again, I don't particularly like Trump and his exact position on this is quite foggy. I'd rather not assume the most extremist thing he has ever said is representative of where he is at on this issue. I know I've said some pretty stupid things in the past and if people always judged me by my worst behavior, I'd be marked as a pretty horrible person. I mean I used snakes as an example for stereotyping Muslims - in the name of all things secular, where was my decency? [/quote] A not-insignificant portion of Americans support unconstitutional policies restricting first amendment rights, not to mention other civil rights. I guarantee there are more of those than the hypothetical Muslims plotting to subject you to "religious laws". Talk about a straw man.[/quote]
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