Reply to Muslim and Arab Killings in the US

Forum Index » Political Discussion

Reply to "Muslim and Arab Killings in the US"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
Sigh...

Based on 2014 statistics:

Jewish victims: 647
Muslim victims: 183
Asian victims: 200

Again, fears of widespread systemic violence against Muslims is unfounded. If we want to use FBI statistics, we should be far more concerned about hate crimes against Jews. Yes, hate crimes against Muslims is increasing as a percentage, most likely due to repeated terrorist attacks all over the world committed by Muslims - even Slate points to this causal relationship; blaming Trump's rhetoric for crime statics in 2014 is stretching it quite a bit.[/quote]
I can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse or whether it comes easy.

The difference between Jewish and Muslim victims of hate crimes is that there is no one (nor has there been someone for a very long time) calling for increased scrutiny of Jews, rousing suspicion in their American-ness, advocating for more screening of potential Jewish immigrants, or pointing fingers at Jewish majority countries.  There is no political climate supporting exclusion and other-ness of American Jews, nor are any attempts in this direction tolerated. There are hate crimes, yes, but there is no authorizing environment for them.

In contrast, exclusion, more intense screening and suspicion of Muslims are currently very much on the agenda, and you seem to be saying that's this is quite all right as they had it coming. [/quote]

I'd say there's be rather more scrutiny of immigration and travelers associated with Muslim countries since 9/11. Surely you've heard of the no fly list and the terrorist watch list. Yet in spite of this increased level of scrutiny post 9/11, the US does not currently have a widespread systemic problem of hate crimes against Muslims. Again the fears that the US will devolve into some type of a nightmarish state for Muslims in the future due to increased immigration scrutiny simply has no basis in reality.

Yes, exclusion, more intense screening and suspicion of Muslims is very much warranted due to what we are observing in the world. The US does not have an open border policy so this necessarily means that we exclude some people. We give visas easily to Canadians but not Russians so obviously some people are subject to more intense screening due to suspicion. The US doesn't let in just anyone for the same reason you don't invite just anyone into your home. For example, you may not like me as a person and are suspicious of me due to what I've expressed here, and would exclude me from coming into your home after intensive screening. That's your prerogative.  It is also our prerogative as Americans to treat Non-Americans with the same degree of caution - there is nothing wrong with that.[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics