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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A martyr loses their life unable to defend themselves.

This man publicly murdered and maimed many. He taunted with bomb threats and sang.

I am stunned to see some say that what he did was right....shocked. Disgusted.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/black-alabama-dallas-shooter-martyr-article-1.2707783

If you read public Facebook comments on this topic, there are many who are upholding this vomit-inducing opinion. [/quote]

You need a dictionary. 
Martyr is a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of a principle,  to kill (someone/or self) for refusing to give up a belief or cause. That principle/belief/cause can be good or evil, just or unjust.[/quote]

I like this attempt the most. Ha ha.

The dictionary definition. Thanks.

You make sense until you remember we are not in a classroom.

If I make a video talking about mlk was a martyr, I'm giving respect. If I make a video about how David Koresh was a martyr, I'm giving respect. A personal video + use of word martyr = showing affinity for that individual and their movement.

A discussion of mlk being a martyr for his cause in an academic/journalistic/etc setting is neutral, as you suggest in your dictionary definition. A discussion of Koresh being a martyr for his cause in said setting, again, is neutral, as you suggest.

Which one was this?[/quote]

I second this. "Martyr" depends on your perspective. I'm sure Islamic terrorists consider the 9/11 sub-humans who killed 3000 of our citizens to be martyrs, but we sure don't. [/quote]

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