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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it was a hate crime. I think he sympathized with ISIL because it made his feelings of violence and hate seem legitimate. It gave him a sense of purpose and focus. He hated himself and anyone who acted on the homosexual feelings he denied (or maybe he acted on them and hated himself for it).[/quote]

[b]Does anyone else think the designation hate crime doesn't quite work if he himself was gay? "[/b]self hate to gays plus hate to west (Isis element) crime"? I think its important to not give this a pat label that will obfuscate the intentions once time passes and specifics are forgotten. [/quote]

No.  People can internalise a lot, especially harmful stuff.[/quote]

Whatever he internaized, if he's gay its sadly gay on gay violence, or  self hate. I dont think if a black man massacred a black church because he was not ok with being black - that it would be characterized as a hate crime.  Its a self hate crime.

I dont see how this is homophobia if he hung out at a gay bar and had gay sex.[/quote].

New poster here.  It sounds like he was a self-hating gay man.  There are plenty in the world and unfortunately many kill themselves.  Maybe he chose this other path based on that recent anti-gay talk he heard at his mosque.  I'm convinced this was due to religion.  [/quote]

Here is the question - what do we do about imams who come to the west and spew hate to susceptible young men and women?not just of gays, but of the west? Where does free speech end? These guys have in incited so much violence, in London, France, Australia, here etc. Why do they still have a microphone?[/quote]

There are multiple Christian pastors who are lamenting that Mateen didn't kill more of them, from their pulpits.  What about them?  Why do they still have a microphone?

A principle if our country is allowing people to say hateful horrible things with impunity.  It's what makes the US unique.  [/quote]

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