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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]West is full of crap.  The only places where torture works as an effective means of gaining useful information is on TV and in the movies.

An official review of CIA use of torture, reviewing over six million pages of dossiers and files, found that it was in fact not at all useful or effective for information gathering.

A redacted copy of that official report has been published.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/09/world/cia-torture-report-document.html[/quote]

And yet, West and his men are quite alive. Funny that.[/quote]

And neither have either of us been flattened by a falling satellite.  Funny that.  Equally valid and relevant conclusion to draw.[/quote]

Was there intelligence re: a falling satellite?[/quote]

Yep, the intel about the falling satellite came from a guy wearing a tin foil beanie.   He was at least as reliable as any beaten and bloodied Iraqi.[/quote]

Do you have intel reports to back that up? West has intel reports to back up the planned attack.[/quote]

A comprehensive official review of six million pages of classified CIA dossiers and files on "enhanced interrogation" shows that there is very little useful intel ever gotten from beating people up.  Debate over.  What you see on TV and movies is made up.[/quote]

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