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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I read the article, and it's not exactly showing that kids benefit from advanced programming, it's more about creating a 1.5 gifted program, between GT and gen ed.

Sounds like a good idea, but some of the lines did make me wince.  This one, for example:  Ford described Louisiana’s IQ cutoff score as “one of the highest” in the country. “I think those criteria are untenable if you really want to desegregate your gifted programs.”[/quote]

I just read the whole article too, and it did say that the intent was for these kids to be able to test high enough to be labeled gifted.

And 130 is not one of the highest in the country to qualify for gifted programs.  And it's even lower for certain demographics -- between 1.5 and 2 standard deviations, which would be as low as 121.  [b]I wish these "diversity advocates" would realize they're in essence saying those groups of kids need easier admissions requirements.[/b][/quote]

But it's true if you believe that IQ scores are influenced by cultural constraints. A child who has been read to since birth, has always had high quality child care, comes from highly verbal parents, is going to have a higher IQ than a child with none of those advantages -- even if both children are actually capable of doing high level academics.[/quote]

So, is the public responsible for providing extra time and money dedicated to the children whose parents did not provide this support in order to raise these children's competencies?  Are we responsible to pay for the fact that other parents don't put in the time and effort toward their children, regardless of their reasons or ability to?  It's an interesting question,  and I am not sure the answer is obvious.  At what point is the public responsible for providing an adequate education, but not for leveling the playing field that results from benefits some children receive from their parents?  Especially when, heaven for bid, the public is very hands off in dictating what parents responsibilities are to their children.  Essentially, this seems to be providing pre-prep classes targeted toward particular children whose parents have not provided as much support as others have  in order to boost their performance and make them eligible for programs.  I'm just not sure why these kids, as opposed to anyone else, should be entitled to receive such a boost. [/quote]

The public benefits when everyone's potential is maximized and, frankly, the US is in decline because of attitudes like yours. This is why our country is no longer the land of opportunity. We should -- as a country -- be doing what we can to get the most out of every capable person. But a lot of people are like you -- willing to waste talent to make a political point. [/quote]

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