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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've read that many schools in Europe and Asia promote giving children challenging work and then reward children by their effort level verses whether they did it correctly. They are more used to challenges as a result. In the US we are more likely to reward correctness instead of effort.[/quote]

And how the heck are teachers supposed to recognize "effort level" when grading?  This sounds like one of those educational theories that sound lovely in the abstract, but in reality is totally impractical.

I'm a teacher and I'm trying to imagine how it would go over if I marked a student down who did his work correctly, but I perceived he didn't work hard enough. [/quote]

It's not all about your or the grades. It's about the children. Are you saying you can't recognize effort in your students? That's a problem.[/quote]

This poster was mistaken about the Asian education system. Nothing in my experience is graded on effort, it is all graded by right or wrong. The difference is when the kids don't do well, everyone including teachers, parents, strangers are blame the kids for not working hard, that is not putting in more effort. Efforts are what people believe what set someone apart in school, not IQ or parental income. [/quote]
I think you are talking about Asian Americans. I'm talking about Asian schools. Asian schools are known to be more challenging and as far as I know parents in early years are more interested in their children being challenged than getting everything right or wrong. Probably in Asia it's both, but there have been many documentaries (you can find some on youtube) regarding how Asian children are praised and taught to increase effort verses mastery both from their parents and teachers.[/quote]

I am Asian and have been in the US for the last two decades and have experience both school systems. Asian schools are more demanding for sure. The parents and teachers are definitively praising working hard more than anything else. But they care very much about the kids' grade. Not because grades are used for college application, it is because grades tell them whether the kids got the materials or not.  If the kids did not do well, they tell the kids to work harder.

The thing about the Asian American is that the high achievement typically only presents in first and at most second generation Americans. Guess who brought the intensity, it is the immigrant parents who were themselves educated in Asian. This idea that Asian American parents are somehow more achievement oriented than Asian parents in Asian countries is not true.

Maybe the best practice is indeed praising the child for effort and let right or wrong slide in the early years, I am not sure that is the case, but I am sure that is not what is going on over in Asia. [/quote]

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