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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They know they dont live in a vacuum. If you are competing from the beginning to go to the best schools and colleges based on academic only, you are goingto put in a lot of effort. Many Asian country has entrance exams to University, the kids are competing with kids from the whole country. Grades dont matter. Only that one exam matter. This exam typically lasts several days and it is not an aptitude test. Keeping the kids challenged is not a philosophy, it is more of a neccesity.[/quote]

So then we agree that in elementary and middle school parents care more about the challenge being provided than the grades.[/quote]

I have never said they don't care about being challenged. They very much do. What I questioned is your assertion that they praise effort and not caring about mastery. They very much care about mastery of materials. But when someone is not very good at studies, the parents/teachers/students are more likely to blame lack of efforts than anything else. Praising effort regardless of achievement is very much a western thing. I should know,  I came through the Asian education system, if there is such a thing.  China, Japan, Korea are quite similar. Don't know much about Indians.

I think you got the effort part right but missed the part about the achievement. That is what several of us are trying to point out. [/quote]

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