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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hello, no. Europe is a way, way crappier place to be as an immigrant than the US. I've lived in both and can attest that in terms of opportunity, treatment, rights, etc. the US is way, way better. Yes, there's a safety net and school is free. But there is a lack of access that non-native citizens face in Europe that doesn't exist in the US. Employers can discriminate on the basis of national origin in Europe. They can't do that here. Housing discrimination? Fine in Europe. Access to education -- terrible in both places, but at least in the US there's a glimmer of a shot of educating your kids because of civil rights laws requiring language access. Europe, just generally, in my view is a crappy place as a immigrant or refugee. And i say this as a Muslim woman. The US is tougher in the sense that you have work hard to make a basic standard of living. You get the bare essentials in Europe. But in the US you can make much, much more of your life in terms of starting a business (like my family did) or getting an education (like I did). We are upper middle class and fairly successful. If we had stayed in France, I can guarantee our lives would have been much worse. That's why I love this country so much I literally work at the VA as a nurse practitioner. I love this country and helping its soldiers heal is the least I can do to express my gratitude.[/quote] You omitted a few more factors that explain the difference. 1. The U.S. - unlike European countries - does not have a single, consistent ethnic culture, around which the national identity is built. You do not have to change any of your looks, religion, and habits to become American. Yet you can never become French, no matter how much you try. It is understandable that a French, Italian, German, Dutch person may feel uneasy with the rapidly changing character of their country. The U.S. never had that to lose, so they don't get it. When a country acquires a chunk of population that isn't privy to its ethnic culture and isn't in much of rush to share it, people feel uneasy. 2. The U.S. never opened its borders to Muslim immigration by right (unlike, say, Germany with Turks or France with the Maghrebis). Consequently, the U.S. never had to deal with thousands of poor, angry Muslims. The American Muslim immigration has always been tiny, mostly employer- and family-based, well educated, and affluent. They do not share the struggles of the European Muslims because they come from a different segment of society. 3. Because of #2, the U.S. never had Muslims living compactly in single-ethnicity communities. With the exception of Michigan and Minnesota, American Muslims are spread amongst other Americans and have no particular urge to live close to each other. This makes them less vulnerable to propaganda, and because they are mostly affluent, there is no groundswell of anger into which one can tap.[/quote] Yep. You are absolutely correct. I heard a segment on NPR this morning discussing the three points made by the PP. The speaker also commented that while the US has radicalized *individuals,* we do not have radicalized *communities* like a number of European nations. Big difference. [/quote]
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