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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In any case, capitalism ain't that grand either. So.[/quote]

Because it requires you to start from the bottom and stand on your own two feet?[/quote]

Exactly.  Because it means less “free stuff.”  Some people actually like the idea of redistribution because then they don’t have to exert any energy.  [/quote]

This describes none of the european economies.

The biggest "free stuff" people receive is free college education, in some countries.  That's a good investment.[/quote]

Oh please.  Sanders has been foolishly touting Denmark as a socialist model for the U.S.  Problem is - even liberals in the U.S. media have concluded Sanders' plan isn't workable for the U.S.:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article50026810.html

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Haha!  Bullsh!t.  The United States is so GD rich, we could do it BETTER than Denmark!  Anyway, most Americans want some very simple things that make sense:

** Access to affordable, universal health care from cradle to grave.
** A living wage.
** Affordable child care and/or a wage that makes it possible for one adult in a two-adult household to provide for the family.
** Affordable housing.
** Access to good education in preparation for life after high school.

In addition, we need:

** Solid infrastructure for transportation -- roads, public transport, etc.
** Clean water and air, safe products in general.
** Financial security (not crazy wealth, just the basics), so trust in our banks and financial systems and security in old age/retirement.
** Jobs that afford us basic human standards of decency, so we have predictable work hours.
** Appropriate time for children, dependent adults, rest and relaxation.
** An educated workforce
** Families that can raise children (families are the most efficient and effective method we have for caring for the next generation)

So... what's keeping us from these things and what's it going to take to get there?[/quote]

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