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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I haven't read all the posts here, but in the DCPS forum, someone said that the charters are used as a "release valve" here. Not a place for all students but as an option for families that want a good education for their children so their kids aren't stuck in failing schools. There are so many people on the education forums lately saying [b]if a kid doesn't want to learn or is disruptive then let them leave and allow the other kids to get a decent education.[/b] Seems to me that is exactly what charters are doing. Letting kids that want to learn, learn. It's hard to begrudge a student an education for the sake of some sort of feigned equality.[/quote]

There's a big difference between letting a child leave and pushing a child out. Especially keeping in mind that charter schools are publicly-funded.

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I agree that there is a difference but charter schools seem to have a different mission than public schools. Public schools must educate all. If charter schools don't have to then they are doing what they can to make sure the students that can and want to learn do. FWIW, I think it's unfair to say charters do a better job than public schools since charters have a self selected population.[/quote]

Seems to me that "public schools must educate all" is fiction.  If that were truly the case, there would be zero demand for charters.  If public schools were truly educating all, then why are there so many families who feel their family's needs are not being met?  Clearly they are NOT educating all.  In fact, I would suggest that public schools are pushing many families out to charters, privates, and homeschooling precisely by not meeting their needs.  And, what's palpable all throughout this thread is the anger and frustration being expressed by parents who DO want their kids to be educated, as opposed to having their kids wasting their time sitting in a classroom where it's impossible to learn because of a disruptive classroom environment.  If you don't understand this frustration and anger, then you are truly tonedeaf to the core problem so many of us have with traditional public schools.  All we want is for our kids to be educated, and if that's not happening in the public school as taxpayers we should have the right to alternatives.[/quote]

You've taken what I wrote out of context. It means that public schools don't have the ability to turn away students for low performance they way charter schools do.[/quote]

Disagree - Public schools do in fact have the ability to pick and choose.  DCPS has application schools that can reject low performing students.  DCPS schools also routinely kick out OOB students for a variety of reasons.  Many public school districts have magnets and other programs which are based on merit.  Charters on the other hand are self selecting.  Where they do kick students out, it's typically for behavior, not academics.  As for behavior, that's typically beyond the scope of schools whether regular public schools or charters - kids with behavior problems are probably better off being in a regular public school which is far more likely to have access to other city services and infrastructure to help deal with social supports as opposed to what a standalone charter would have access to.[/quote]
Yes but legally charters can't pick and choose. If you want to debate whether that is good public policy - that is a reasonable thing to debate. What is frustrating about Eva is that she claims to take everyone and not push some kids out while touting her test scores and pushing to be able to take over parts of public school buildings for her charters. If she wants to be able to pick and choose, she should lobby to have the laws changed instead of just doing what she wants through back doors abuses of the current system.[/quote]

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