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The point is, physical attractiveness is important to both men and women.  Get over it. [/quote]

That's fine, just own it. Let's not tell people that just talking to people of the opposite sex like humans is the key to having a shot with them. Let's be honest that you have to be close to their physical attractiveness before those other much vaunted - but less important - human qualities matter.[/quote]

I'm the poster who suggested treating women like people rather than "targets." I never said that physical attractiveness is not important. Of course it is. I wasn't saying that being a respectful decent human being was "the key to having a shot." I was suggesting that people should stop treating human relationships like a game or a contest. I mentioned attractiveness only because there is a massive double standard in the PUA bullshit. Denigrating women for being interested in attractive men rather than unattractive men while simultaneously only being interested in attractive women. It's childish and unattractive.[/quote]

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