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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]All of these politicians are pitching to their constituency right now so all kinds of generic blanket statements are gonna be getting tossed around.[/quote]

None of them should be excused. You know full well that making the same blanket statements about other groups would be career-ending. Bigoted statements should not be excused simply because they are targeted at the powerless.

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Islam is not an identity; it is a belief system, like white supremacists, or communists. In much of the world Islam is anything but powerless, in almost all of those places a whole lot of things incompatible with western values are implemented by force of law.[/quote]

[b]Again, Islam is not homogeneous.[/b] Every time that you suggest that is the case, you are exposing both your ignorance and your bigotry. What groups besides Muslims do you believe it is acceptable to cast blanket statements about?

The US Constitution -- a document that many believe espouses Western values -- explicitly prohibits religious tests for holding public office. Why would you excuse any candidate that opposes that Western value?

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Not the PP to whom you addressed your response.

Islam has variations but except for those who are nominal Muslims, there is a strong element of intolerance when it comes to belief systems that are contrary to their faith.

When it comes to other faiths - Judaism or Christianity, for example - there are those who are orthodox in their beliefs and they are no different than Muslims in their intolerance of other viewpoints. The difference is that there are variations within those faiths as to how literally they take some of the main tenets. So you have Reform Jews and various Christian denominations that are relatively tolerant.

When it comes to Islam there those who are quite extreme and then there are those who are less so .... but even with the latter I would not refer to their views as moderate by any means.

The US has been fairly exempt from the sort of extremism that we have seen from Muslims in other countries. There is no point in allowing political correctness to blind us to certain realities.[/quote]

There is really nothing worse than an educated bigot. At least the ignorant have an excuse. But, when those who know better still justify prejudice, they do it despite knowing the consequences.

Can you state specifically which polices a Muslim candidate in the US is likely to expose based on her religion that you would oppose? Is it the praying five times a day that you believe would be disqualifying? The chance that the President might go on the Haj? Is it the charity that the President would demonstrate? The fasting? Or, her simple profession of faith? I am having a really difficult time understanding why all Muslims should be unconstitutionally barred from the Presidency.

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You are being deliberately obtuse and don't be so quick to accuse people of bigotry because they disagree with you.

None of the items you listed in the last paragraph would bother me. But someone who is a conservative, observant Muslim would seek to implement other aspects of Islam that would be unacceptable in the US. Fortunately he would be prevented from doing so by Congress and the courts but that would not prevent divisiveness. 
 
As to what specific things he may seek to do if he follows one of the more conservative variations of Islam, just check out what happens in some Muslim countries and see if they would be acceptable in the US.

If you ever get a chance - and can find it - check out what Kenneth Kaunda once said about Islam and why it is so immensely appealing to Africans. Kaunda was a Christian. 
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