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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All it means is that they [b]consider the stuff that grades and tests scores don't cover[/b].

The rich and influential will always get in- no matter what the criteria. [/quote]

They consider those stuff not equally based on race.[/quote]

They take points off for access to quality education and parents who put education as their priority and add points to students with not as much access to opportunities or parental support.  It looks like racism because certain races are (on the whole) more educated and wealthier so they give their children more opportunities.  This is due to our country's racist past and current structural racism.   For example, one of the thing they look at is if it is a student who will be the first generation in the family to go to college.

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There are Asians who are first generation college students (e.g. SE Asians) and there are many Asian parents whose first language is not English or not fluent with English and thus not able to offer much support to their children. These Asian children are disadvantaged due to their parents not being fluent with English and not being familiar with the public school system and yet they get no points unlike other minority groups and in fact they get penalized and are discriminated against in college admission. All the minority groups are disadvantaged including Asians.

[b]Asians tend to excel DESPITE all the disadvantages in terms of language, culture, marginalization, lack of role models, zero political power etc[/b]. only to be excluded in college admission and in employment and promotion later on. 
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Can you point to some data for this? Because the Asians I see are clearly not disadvantaged whether their parents speak English or not.  TJ is a great example.  If the disadvantaged Asians, were going to TJ the free and reduced lunch rate would be higher than 1%.   [/quote]

Please see above boded statement.

TJ is a great example of Asians excelling despite "disadvantages in terms of language, culture, marginalization, lack of role models, zero political power etc.".

Do you think receiving free or reduced cost school lunch is the ONLY way to assess "disadvantage"? Most Asians work 2 or 3 jobs or run small businesses and work 80-90 hours per week so that they DO NOT have to ask for hand-outs including free lunch. Asians feel shamed to ask for hand-outs including free lunch. You would know that if you knew something about Asian culture.

Many Asian families at TJ are middle class not upper class. Middle class because they work 80-90 hours a week.[/quote]

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