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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima] http://nyti.ms/1HnkDOC

Fascinating read. I couldn't help but notice so many parallels with Saudi culture in the article above.I'd like to preface this by saying that I know and understand that there are many laws, cultural norms in Saudi Arabia that are   misogynistic and stem from tribalism and the fact that Bedouin society has always been segregated.  I'm not debating that.  Where I want to take the conversation is more on the article's point that there are many upper class women in the US who  are educated stay at home parents who live very segregated lives from their male counterparts in a non segregated culture. However,  this is completely acceptable and these same women are praised for their selfless choices and these choices are culturally acceptable. [b]However,  when  women in other parts of the world make these same choices,  they are automatically labeled as brainwashed and submissive.[/b] The part where the author  states :
“It’s easier and more fun,” the women insisted when I asked about the sex segregation that defined their lives.“We prefer it,” the men told me at a dinner party where husbands and wives sat at entirely different tables in entirely different rooms" is particularly telling. As I could see Saudi men and women answering this question the same way,  using the same logic. Thoughts?

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Thoughts? I'll give you one thought.  Do you understand the difference between "voluntary" and "enforced"? You know perfectly well that Saudi men and women do not "make a choice" to segregate. That choice is imposed on them by societal customs and by government structures that maintain separate entrances and public offices for women, that make it impossible for men and women to study side-by-side, and that maintain women in the state of perpetual minors who need the approval of their male relatives for most decisions in life.

The thing is, I know you know all that perfectly well, you're just counting on the possibility no one reading this actually understands the reality of life in KSA.[/quote]

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