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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele]At least we have gained some clarity in this thread. A poster writes:

[quote]Islam kills gay men daily. Islam subjugates women daily. Judaism and Christianity embrace morals and values on which modern society is based. [/quote]

And Geller's supporters weigh in to say the poster is "spot on" and is "100% correct". So, let's not hear any more of the "we are only concerned about 'radical' Islam" hogwash. Not one Geller supporter jumped into to advise the poster that the issue is freedom of expression, not hatred of Islam.

It is perfectly legal and within your rights to be Islamophobes. But, you are no different than anti-Semites, racists, or any other run of the mill bigot. Wrapping yourselves in the 1st Amendment doesn't change that.
[/quote] Yet posters have clearly stated they would stand behind the RIGHT of those groups to speak--even when it is hateful and offensive. This isn't about agreeing with Geller. It isn't about Islamaphobia. It is about free speech, an issue most Americans hold quite dear and which sets us apart from many parts of the world. Islam, or the radicalized adherents, are no different than any other group that is the subject of such offensive remarks or actions. The difference--they don't feel compelled to murder because they are offended. We cannot give up such an important right because some groups respond in the extreme. [/quote]

At best, you completely misread my post. At worst, you are another example of the type of of poster that I am criticizing.

If you bothered to read my post, you will notice that I quoted this remark from another poster in this thread:

[quote]Islam kills gay men daily. Islam subjugates women daily. Judaism and Christianity embrace morals and values on which modern society is based. [/quote]

How can you read such a remark and say, this "isn't about Islamaphobia"?

There are plenty of Islamophobes wrapping themselves in the 1st Amendment and suggesting that any criticism of them is an attack on freedom of expression. There is nothing wrong with saying, "I detest what you are saying but defend your right to say it." But, a lot of you leaving out the part about detesting and some are going even further and saying they agree with what Geller says. Even you seem to imply that murdering as a reaction to offense in a Muslim trait. Yet, that is not true of the vast majority of Muslims. If someone is being racist or anti-Semitic, do you react by finding fault with Jews or people of color and blaming the entire religion or race for that acts of those individuals?

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