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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I also don't understand the ",missed opportunities" of friendship. In that dopey scenario aren't 4th graders missing out on friendships with 3rd and 5th graders because they aren't in the same classes? Aren't kids who live in the same large neighborhood but are split between School A and School B missing out on 
friendships?

A child doesn't need to be exposed to 150 kids to make friends. In some small schools there may only be two classes in the grade. Are those kids suffering because there aren't another 50-75 peers at the school?

It really is looking for a problem where there shouldn't be one.[/quote]

I think the problem is that there's an academic segregation going on at the center schools. So that the GE kids never get to hang out with the academic superstars and the academic superstars never hang out with kids who may be on grade level or even struggling. This makes for a very segregated way of living and was the reason tracking went away in the first place. I think many people are supportive of kids getting lessons at their academic level. What they aren't supportive of is situation in elementary where kids are only with like minded kids whether that's race, intelligence, or parent income level. In high school it makes more sense to specialize because children are figuring out what they want to major in. [b]Can you not understand how a kid who is in GE might think he's too dumb to even hang out with the AAP kids if they are so segregated or an AAP kid thinking the other kids are so dumb they aren't worth hanging out with?[/b] That type of attitude stays with people throughout their lives.[/quote]

Do you just not believe the posts above telling you that AAP and Gen Ed kids do share certain classes and more? Specials, PE, recess, field trips (maybe your school doesn't mix groups for field trips but others do), all-grade activities like the third grade and sixth grade plays at our former center school. My kid is going on a field trip tomorrow in her AAP center middle school and the groups for the day are mixed. Yes, the kids are "segregated" academically for the core academic subjects, since you insist on using that term. That separation into classes based on aptitude and the speed and depth of teaching is the entire point of an advanced academic program. But the schools do mix these in other ways.

You just seem to ignore that fact, and the previous posts giving you other examples. It sounds as if you would prefer no academic differentiation by class, but won't come right out and say it.

As for the sentence in bold above -- that is a huge generalization that manages to stereotype both AAP [u]and[/u] Gen Ed kids in a single sentence, the former as superior snots and the latter as woefully considering themselves dumb. Way to insult both groups at once.

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There is a topic right also active entitled "Why I hate AAP". I haven't posted once on this and yet there are pages of comments. While it is a stereotype, there are certainly kids on both sides who feel this way hence the reason for the stereotype. Not all of course, but it is still an issue. As a parent of an AAP child at a center elementary school, how many new friends did your child make at the center who were not in K-2 with them or in AAP? How many of those new kids did you had over to your house during grades 3-5? How about their parents? [/quote]

Ok. Back at you.

As the established student at the school, how many new kids in the AAP program did your chikd reach out to? How many of them did she welcome? Try to get to know? How many names of these new kids did she know?

What about you? How many of the new AAP parents did you welcome to your school? Invite to the PTA meeting? Try to make feel like they were welcome in the commuity?

As someone who moved many times as my life and who now is established in an actual neighborhood and home, I always feel that it is proper manners and common courtesy for tue established folks to be the ones to reach out to and welcome newcomers. Yes, newcomers should be friendly but those already comfortable and established should be the ones extending hospitality.

If your school breeds so much hostility than perhaps you, the established one, is part of the problem.

Change your attitude and show som basic manners and perhaps you will find out that your stereotypes are, with very few exceptions, just that...unfounded stereotypes.

You might...gasp...discover that most of these AAP encroachers are actually quite nice and would love to be welcomed into the school community instead of being shunned, gossiped about and resented.[/quote]

I'm actually a parent of an AAP student and have reached out to others both new AAP students and general ed children. Just reporting what I see of other parents not as interested.[/quote]

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