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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] I have no idea where in the universe you have been living, and why you seem to equate marriage with 'full-time fatherhood' and unlimited access. [/quote] Because no other arrangement offers this to a man except single fatherhood with full custody. [quote=Anonymous]The fact is men all over the world have always been able to have children without feeling the pressure to marry their baby mommas. [/quote] You confuse "being allowed to ejaculate inside a woman" with "raising a child." Besides, men haven't been "able" to have children without marriage. They have been allowed to do so by women. Whether a pregnancy occurs is up to both people, but whether it continues is entirely and completely up to the woman. Women control procreation. Few children born outside the marriage have been conceived by men by design; I would guess that most of these men are accidental fathers. How far do you think a man would get if he was explicit and deliberate about his desire to have a child with a particular woman without offering marriage or something like it? A woman isn't likely to agree to this unless she has no other options. [quote=Anonymous] I also can't see what would prevent them from enjoying 'full-time fatherhood' (assuming there is something called 'part-time fatherhood') [/quote] The presence of the mother with custody rights. And yes, there is something called part-time fatherhood. If you see your child every other weekend, that's part-time fatherhood. If that is your arrangement, you have less influence and control over that child compared to a man who lives with the child and sees him or her every day. [quote=Anonymous]Did you grow up in a small social circle (built around the church or something)?! Your logic is too simplistic and incorrect.[/quote] Getting personal means you are running out of arguments. But since you asked, I'm actually a woman of the world who knows too many women who opted to become single mothers by choice, at the time of their choosing, without waiting for marriage or needing permission from a man. And yes, most of them would have preferred to do so within the context of marriage, but when that wasn't in the cards, they became mothers by other means that science and the market made available - because women, as I said before, control procreation. A man in the same position would have had to spend tens of thousands of dollars and make a lot more effort to avail himself of similar options. [/quote]
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