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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is unfortunate that 'fire and brimstone' Christianity has developed such a strong hold on people's imagination. "Salvation" in early Christianity was not primarily intended as 'a ticket out of hell'.

Anyhow, I prefer to translate what's usually translated as faith in English with the word Trust (in my native language the word "faith" is the same as what spouses promise to each other, to trust and be trusteorthy).

So basically to trust in God is to love him and wanting to be with him. Heaven is to be with him, hell away from him. But hell only looks like hell from heaven's point of view. It is freely chosen, and no one on hell really wants to go to heaven. Why would they!? Be there with a God you never knew is not that appealing.

From here:http://www.redeemer.com/redeemer-report/article/the_importance_of_hell

"What is hell, then? It is God actively giving us up to what we have freely chosen-to go our own way, be our own "the master of our fate, the captain of our soul," to get away from him and his control. It is God banishing us to regions we have desperately tried to get into all our lives. J.I.Packer writes: "Scripture sees hell as self-chosen . . . [H]ell appears as God's gesture of respect for human choice. All receive what they actually chose, either to be with God forever, worshipping him, or without God forever, worshipping themselves." (J.I.Packer, Concise Theology p.262-263.) If the thing you most want is to worship God in the beauty of his holiness, then that is what you will get (Ps 96:9-13.) If the thing you most want is to be your own master, then the holiness of God will become an agony, and the presence of God a terror you will flee forever (Rev 6:16; cf. Is 6:1-6.)"[/quote]

This is what I've been saying for days, but not as well.[/quote]

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