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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]
I don't think we are talking about the same thing.  When I say context,  I'm talking about when and why the verse was revealed, there is no dispute on that as those are historical events,  so your context and my context cannot be different. Shias and wahabis have their own interpretations but they are a minority , so the majority of Muslims do not  practice Islam the way they do.  Does it mean they are wrong?  I don't agree with some of their interpretations but that is my opinion. However if someone tells me Islam says to kill unbelievers,  I can theologically prove them wrong, using facts and events that are recorded and preserved and using the message of the Quran. When it comes to veiling or not,  that comes under  interpretation,  that's a practice, so that has nothing to do with the Core of the message. There are 4 schools of thought in Sunni Islam which means, there are only 4 recognized interpretations of the major Islamic laws. Shias have their own school but they represent less than 10% of the Muslims. You don't need a priest to interpret something for you if you are learned,  and have knowledge.  If you've never studied the Qu'ran, how can you make up your interpretations? Muslims are supposed to learn their religion, ponder on it.  The quran itself says “A book We have sent down to you, blessed, that men possessed of mind may Ponder its signs end so remember”. (38:29)

"Do they not then earnestly seek to understand the Quran, or are their hearts locked up?"

If the Word of God was stated only in very simple language, its application in a wide variety of cultures, eras, and fields of study would be extremely limited, so again, God balanced His Book between simplicity and complexity to serve the needs of all humanity at the same time.
So, whenever you read the Quran, you should ponder upon its meaning, what is the meaning of this verse? What is the meaning of this word?
This does not mean that you invent (the meaning) from yourself , this is not permissible, rather you should refer to the authentic trustworthy books of Tafseer .

And if after that,  you still don't know.  The Quran tells you to ask. You have to ask the people of knowledge, Allah says, "So ask of those who know the Scripture, if you know not." [(16): 43] and the Messenger (saw) said,

"…Shouldn't they have asked if they didn't know?! Verily the cure of all ignorance is to ask!" [Abu Dawood]

So when we say, we don't need priests , what is meant is we don't need an intermediary, we pray directly to God, but we definitely need scholars to understand Islam. The companions had the Prophet (saw) who explained to them the meaning of the verses, you cant learn Islam or read the Quran in a vacuum, you will just not get the message that way.

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We are talking about the same thing. There's lots of room for disagreement even if you know the historical context. There are differences in figuring out what exactly happened 1400 years ago (the hadith are a good example of this). Then if you can agree on the historical facts, you still need to interpret it within the historical context.  For example, do verses commanding "fight in the cause of Allah against oppressors" refer to a physical or a spiritual fight? Knowing that one such verse was delivered in the context of attacks by Meccans doesn't necessarily answer this question. Nor does historical context answer questions about what constitutes "oppression" or "persecution" (cartoons?) or where the "limits" on responding are set.  Historical context raises as many issues as it solves. Enter legions of independent scholars, some of them Wahabbi or Taliban, all issuing opinions about what this verse means. If you asked 10 scholars you might get 10 different answers for some questions, and each of them would think he's right.[/quote]

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