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not attractive at all.  That's why religion is selfish.  It's all about being temporarily good in order to secure a spot in the afterlife. that's all . . . [/quote]
This is an example of sad misunderstanding of a religion (including atheism). Very typical among young Americans, and very distructive.[/quote]

How is this destructive?

I own that line, btw.

The most selfless folks are those who do good on this earth w/o relying on "payment" in the afterlife.

How can you argue against that?  or even call it "destructive?"

fear-based way of controlling the masses

I'm definitely not young either.[/quote]

It is destructive because it is the equivalent of saying all black people are lazy.  That is not at all what religion is "all about".  You are ignorant and uneducated.  Saying something doesn't make it true.  Just because there are selfish religious people doesn't mean all religious people are selfish.  Just because religion has on occasion been used to control the masses doesn't mean that is even its primary purpose.  You are a sloppy thinker.
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You're now jumping to racial intolerance?

Your mind works in a very odd way.

Yes - it's about control.  Religious people NEED to attend some sort of service weekly (You do have your holiday Christians high holiday Jews.) to guide them.  Atheists don't.  I don't need a godly figure before me to tell me how to live my life.

My daughter, who's 10, said this:  "Why can't I just live my life and be happy? Why would I need a god or a book to make me happy?"  out of the mouth of babes

I'm not a sloppy thinker. Sloppy thinkers can't think for themselves.  They rely on others to think for them.  I believe you'd be in that category, my Christian pal.  Furthermore, there are studies that show that more women than men attend church b/c of guilt, anxiety and dependence (stemming from fear of the unknown) upon some sort of "higher power."

all healthy in your eyes, I suppose[/quote]

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