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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our child with over a 4.0 and similar SAT's was rejected from MacAlester, Emory,  and Oberlin.  Your child will not get into those schools.  [/quote]

Ugh.  I hate posts like this.  Stop saying things so definitively.  My child was accepted at both Macalester and Oberlin with similar SATs and a GPA in the 3.6ish range.  So really, you don't know.  Do I think those schools are matches for OP's kid?  No.  But I also think she should ignore posters who think they can so definitely say they her kid will not get into a particular school (save for maybe HYPSM).[/quote]

Yes, but she should also, as was said pages ago, make sure her son has some true safeties on his list--colleges where admission is extremely likely, that the family can afford, and that the kid likes. That means in addition to the Macalesters and the Oberlins, he needs some, say, Mary Washingtons and Gouchers.[/quote]

PP is right, every kid should apply to a range of reaches, targets and safeties.

The point is, you need to think in terms of [b]probabilities[/b] not yes/no, black/white acceptance. The chances a kid with a 3.3 will get into an Ivy might be about 2%, which is higher than zero, but still very low (I'm making this up, but from what I've seen, it's something like reality). The chances a 3.3 might get into Macalester, Emory or Oberlin might be more like 20% (again, making up numbers, but hopefully you get the idea). So there will always be somebody like PP with a story to tell about some kid who got into Yale with miserable GPA or SATs or whatever, and sometimes the poster says it nicely, and other times they get all snotty and use words like "ugh" and "hate."  Also, often you don't know the full story, particularly wrt hooks. [/quote]

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