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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima] I  recently stumbled on an excerpt of aTED talk by Lesley Hazleton: A "tourist" reads the Koran". I think it sums up very well most misunderstandings that people have about the Quran. I haven't watched the full talk yet which is about 90minutes but will definitely do so. I for one, appreciated the sincerity, and humor in her approach.  Here's the excerpt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2Or0LlO6g#t=560
Now, as far as Shariah law is concerned, it is fluid and  decentralized.The Muslim scholar Hamza Yusuf commented that ‘reducing Shariah down to the punishments is like reducing the US judicial system down to the electric chair’.  Any scholar with enough years of study can issue a fatwa (opinion) and it is not binding on anyone other than the one who chooses to follow it.  Shariah considers context, time and place in its rulings. It is not uniform, what is considered an obligation/binding on one person may be prohibited for another. Rulings are made on a  case-by-case basis. The principles behind Shariah remain the same but the applications are widely varied depending on a lot of different things including time, place, ect. The only people who attempted to formalize and codify shariah were the British with their colonies when they created the ‘Anglo-Muhammadan Law’ in an attempt to better control the law . Because of the very nature of Shariah law, a simplistic comparison to other legal systems will for the most part always be misleading. In fact, most Muslims have a very basic understanding of Shariah law, and that is another problem as well.....[/quote]

ISIS beheads their victims because they are following the Quran and Mohammed.   They say it in the videos.

[b]While Shariah law is left to interpretation, is not the Quran gods law, the unaltered and direct words of God, as written by Muhammed, a human being? [/b]  at least it is supposed to be that until it is not convenient.

[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

It is not hard to figure out what is going on, even though many on this board are stuck in a politically correct dc view.

The only solution is to follow the money, stop the Saudi funding of terrorist schools that preach Wahabism and hate.  Expand our energy resources and tax the oil from SA to sky high levels.  And confirm the fundamental separation of church and state and equal rights for women.  Let the ME rot in never ending moslem on moslem violence.  We need to stay out of there.  Obama had it right but caved in.  Bombing from the sky is lunacy.  Stop all immigration from ME.  Stop all travel from SA at american airports.  We need to be smart and fight this cancer with economic warfare.

"The belief that the Quran is the unquestionable word of God is fundamental to the Islamic faith, and held by the vast majority of Muslims worldwide, fundamentalist or progressive. Many of you believe that letting it go is as good as calling yourself non-Muslim. I get that. But does it have to be that way?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/an-open-letter-to-moderat_b_5930764.html
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Correction: Muslims do not believe that the Quran was written by Mohamed saw. We believe that it is the Word of God  revealed to the Prophet saw through the angel Gabriel. Fun fact, Prophet Mohamed saw was actually illiterate, he couldn't read nor write, so yeh he didn't write the Quran, moving on.....Those verses that you cited have been debated over and over again on this forum, explanations have been provided, context has been provided, no need to rehash them over and over.

And the article that you quoted is from a self-proclaimed Atheist Muslim who is advising Muslims to disassociate "Islamic identity from Muslim identity by coming together on a sense of community, not ideology". The inference from such a statement is that the Islamic Identity is attributable to those few verses of the Noble Quran that seems to call for violence against all nonMuslims. Out of more than 6,000 verses in the Quran, he cited the verses the so called radical Muslims act upon  and he used a simplified rhetoric to give the notion that these verses  sum up the entire Islamic identity. What he and so many fail to understand, is that for the Muslims who embrace and understand this religion, Islam has never been wrong, we do not need to drift away from this ideology, from our Islamic identities to be decent citizens. The problem is, people who do not have a sound understanding of the religion itself, its scripture,  or half/selective understanding and interpretations. That is the real danger!

Now, as for you, saying "ISIS beheads their victims because they are following the Quran and Mohammed", [b]ISIS have successfully beaten you[/b], their attempt at spreading fear has worked. You now think that they're greater in numbers than they are, and are a greater threat than they actually are. They have successfully "beheaded" you. Congratulations ISIS!

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ah, just round one.   a lunatic religion like Islam will eventually crumble.  as more and more men take on the role of god, fractures and splits will occur.  It is inevitable.  And then they will fight each other to the death.[/quote]

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