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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima] I  recently stumbled on an excerpt of aTED talk by Lesley Hazleton: A "tourist" reads the Koran". I think it sums up very well most misunderstandings that people have about the Quran. I haven't watched the full talk yet which is about 90minutes but will definitely do so. I for one, appreciated the sincerity, and humor in her approach.  Here's the excerpt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2Or0LlO6g#t=560
Now, as far as Shariah law is concerned, it is fluid and  decentralized.The Muslim scholar Hamza Yusuf commented that ‘reducing Shariah down to the punishments is like reducing the US judicial system down to the electric chair’.  Any scholar with enough years of study can issue a fatwa (opinion) and it is not binding on anyone other than the one who chooses to follow it.  Shariah considers context, time and place in its rulings. It is not uniform, what is considered an obligation/binding on one person may be prohibited for another. Rulings are made on a  case-by-case basis. The principles behind Shariah remain the same but the applications are widely varied depending on a lot of different things including time, place, ect. The only people who attempted to formalize and codify shariah were the British with their colonies when they created the ‘Anglo-Muhammadan Law’ in an attempt to better control the law . Because of the very nature of Shariah law, a simplistic comparison to other legal systems will for the most part always be misleading. In fact, most Muslims have a very basic understanding of Shariah law, and that is another problem as well.....[/quote]

ISIS beheads their victims because they are following the Quran and Mohammed.   They say it in the videos.

While Shariah law is left to interpretation, is not the Quran gods law, the unaltered and direct words of God, as written by Muhammed, a human being?   at least it is supposed to be that until it is not convenient.

[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

It is not hard to figure out what is going on, even though many on this board are stuck in a politically correct dc view.

The only solution is to follow the money, stop the Saudi funding of terrorist schools that preach Wahabism and hate.  Expand our energy resources and tax the oil from SA to sky high levels.  And confirm the fundamental separation of church and state and equal rights for women.  Let the ME rot in never ending moslem on moslem violence.  We need to stay out of there.  Obama had it right but caved in.  Bombing from the sky is lunacy.  Stop all immigration from ME.  Stop all travel from SA at american airports.  We need to be smart and fight this cancer with economic warfare.

"The belief that the Quran is the unquestionable word of God is fundamental to the Islamic faith, and held by the vast majority of Muslims worldwide, fundamentalist or progressive. Many of you believe that letting it go is as good as calling yourself non-Muslim. I get that. But does it have to be that way?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/an-open-letter-to-moderat_b_5930764.html
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With regard to the article, the problem as I see it is less the claims of infallibility of the Quran than the insistence that what it says is good for all times and all places--that is that the Quran is eternal and co-existent with God.  This is what prevent s Muslims from saying--okay those verses seems antiquated relative to today's mores but they came in response to a very specific historical situation and can't really be applied more broadly than that.

The createdness of the Quran in seventh century Arabia (as opposed to from the beginning of time) was a mainstream theological view for a few centuries but eventually it lost out to theologians arguing for the co-eternity of the Quran with God.  This is a desperately needed reform in Islam as it will allow everyone to distance themselves from the most problematic aspects of the Quran, just as Christians and Jews are able to distance themselves from the most problematic aspects of the Bible.

As for infallibility, Islam does need to reform itself on that as well.  It would be fine and well to imagine there is somewhere in virtual space an infallible Quran, but real scholars (not the bottom of the class men who, much to their families' disappointment were not bright enough to study medicine, engineering, or science and so entered the school of religion at their local university--the only school that would accept them) need to come forward and point out how they Quran was assembled in Arabic and all the room for error and changes in wording inherent in that process.[/quote]

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