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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"[b]Sadly most of the U.S. teachers come from the bottom half of their high school graduation class with SAT scores well under 1000. Entry into education colleges are just not at all competitive. One way to turn our education system around is to mandate a higher bar into the profession.
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Nice try....nope. I had high SAT scores, and I have extensive graduate school  degrees and continuing ed. 
Have you taken the Praxis for certification?Clearly you weren't aware of the standard.You and the "disdain"poster need to get off this thread. Both of you are not teachers,not in the field, not helpful! :!:

One of the main reasons teachers are leaving is exactly this attitude...people have no idea what goes on in a school.[/quote]

Just because YOU had high SAT scores (and by HIGH, I'm sure you mean 1500+ out of 1600, right?) doesn't mean that all of, or even MOST teachers do.  Just because you go to a lot of training classes doesn't mean that you are an effective teacher. It just means you go to a lot of training. So, nice try in trying to sound like you're the best thing since sliced bread and that parents should be honored to have you teach their children.

Praxis - HAHA - the standard is set quite low.  Most education colleges have a 100% pass rate. Obviously the standard is too low and supports the point to raise the standard of who teaches. You obviously didn't  know that as you try to make the Praxis exam sound like it is as strenuous as the MCAT.

Check out FACTS published by Time and others:  Less than 25% of new teachers come from the top third of their college classes; By contrast, In Finland, Singapore, and South Korea, 100% of educators come from the top third.
Nearly 50% of new U. S. teachers come from the bottom third of their class.  (You know where these four countries stand on the TIMSS exam, right?)

What is the #1 indicator for a child's success in school?   It's not class size.  It's not high spending per pupil.  It's not SES status or poverty.  It's not access to technology.  It's not the number of workshops attended by teachers.  It's the effectiveness of the teacher and clearly Finland, Singapore and South Korea know that top students make top teachers.  Why hasn't the US realized this?????

Clearly teachers are a big part of the problem but sadly, they won't admit it.
Stop drinking your union Kool-Aid.

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Take your elitist attitude underwritten by your skewed facts and consider :
 All those countries you mentioned have homogenous populations. [b]Stop comparing what goes on in Finland to what goes on here[/b]. I dare you to walk in an American public school classroom and try to make it  through the day. And, yes, the parents of the kids I teach are lucky to have me as a teacher.[/quote]

I was just about to post a similar comment. How many kids in a Finnish school don't speak Finnish? How many South Korean children don't understand Korean? This country has unique educational challenges, for better or for worse.[/quote]

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