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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Because giving up pork is far easier than outright suddenly stopping slavery, which was institutionalized, and deeply entrenched in pagan Arab life and also throughout history among people of all religions. So Allah eradicated it in steps: 1) promised a great reward to owners who freed concubines or slaves 2) encouraged owners to marry believing concubines ( which would have effectively freed them) 3) equated children of slaves with the owners other children. Thus they could not be sold and received the same inheritance rights. All these have the effect of eradicating slavery. [/quote] It still didn't give female slaves the option to not share their master's bed. It's ridiculous to say they were treated "just like wives."[/quote] In Islam concubines had these rights -be fed same as wife -be clothed same as wife -not be given work that they were incapable of handling -could get their freedom if they asked -were encouraged to be freed -were encouraged to be married to their owners -if pregnant, had to be freed -if had children, the children had same rights as other children in the house Just seems a bit odd for Allah to say they had these rights but the owner could force himself on her if he liked.[/quote] Not "given" freedom. Negotiated (although what could they possibly have to negotiate with?) Here are the rights they did not have: - to consent to "marriage" - to receive a dowry - to ask for "divorce" - pregnancy didn't set them free, the death of the owner to whom they've born a child did. You're tripping here. If they had to be free upon pregnancy, their masters would have lost the right to intercourse with them (since they would no longer be owned by that particular man) and would have to marry them to continue to enjoy that right. The concubine who had children by her owner would be set free but only after her master died.[/quote]
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