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[quote=Anonymous][quote]Anyone who has worked at independent schools knows that this is true. What other sources do you want? Independent schools are not going to publish this data. They are not compelled to do so, and in fact, they probably don't even have this information. They don't care. The fact is, the best independent schools want teachers with advanced degrees in their subject area. [b]Many teachers also have master's degrees in education, particularly Early Childhood Education if they are lower school teachers. Very few of them are certified unless they initially taught in public schools.[/b] It is true that a degree in math is not enough to become a good math teacher. [b]You need to learn the science, the art, and the craft of teaching in order to be effective.[/b] However, good schools understand that this is not necessarily obtained by jumping through the hoops required to obtain state certification, and therefore it is not required at top independent schools. It is understandable for the OP to be wary of having an experienced teacher for their child. I would contend though, that whether or not they are certified is meaningless. If it is a good school, they have probably done a good job in their hiring process, and they have mentoring and support systems to help their new teachers succeed and grow professionally.[/quote] I'm guessing you don't really understand certification, PP. Consider the first bolded portion above. If a teacher has an M.Ed, they have already met the requirements of certification, and then some. All they need to do is to file some paperwork that validates they know how to teach. Why wouldn't they do that? Now let's consider the second bolded passage. Certification insures and validates that you have learned the science, art, and craft of teaching. So. What again is your problem with certification? Yes, independent schools are filled with unlicensed teachers, who are paid less than their public school counterparts because they are unlicensed. This is not in dispute. What is in dispute is that they are somehow better teachers with only an undergraduate major in the field. You seem to think that since parents pay big bucks and rich kids go to college that unlicensed teachers are good teachers. Not a logical progression. I agree with you that the best teachers have both subject matter excellence and skills in the "art, science and craft" of teaching. Certification insures that teachers have education in both. Also, I doubt you're a teacher. "Top independent schools" prefer teaching candidates who are either certified, certification eligible, or with a master's plus. And this funny talk about vague mentoring and support systems outs you as someone NOT in the know.[/quote]
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