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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow. Apparently no one here has ever worked in advertising and everyone here has a stick up his/her ass. I agree you husband was a fool for getting stuck in the situation, but it doesn't really sound like a big deal to me based on the situation. [/quote] What, you think that last bastion of good old boy 1950's locker room activity needs to be protected? Sorry, but you need to grow up and realize that the world is a different place than it was 50 years ago and that type of behavior is no longer appropriate. Maybe all it will take is firing some of the older white males who just can't seem to realize that they can't sit on white privilege and make everyone else take it. It would be a good start.[/quote] For the record, I'm female. And I think there's a line between harassment and having fun with your friends. Obviously somehow he crossed her lines without knowing it and I guess that's wrong, but where's the line between joking with friends and being careful of every communication with a co worker. He was continuing on a stupid joke from earlier in the day, not threatening to fire her if she didn't sleep with him. No one should feel threatened or uncomfortable in their workplace, but everyone doesn't have to be hypersensitive all the time either. I've had issues with co-workers before and because they were obviously well intentioned, nice and a bit retro, it was easily sorted out with a 2 minute face to face discussion. [/quote] Yes, that's what I said upstream. The group locker room bullshit was just inappropriate, but taking that into a one-on-one with a woman who obviously did not partake in that discussion (she probably just sat in uncomfortable silence wishing that they would just stop) then he crossed the line into harassment. If you have to draw a line, joke in a group setting where others are participating, but do not make sexual innuendo, gender jokes, nudity jokes, body jokes with a co-worker one-on-one unless you KNOW that they are open to such jokes. Leave questionable material for situations where no one can feel singled out or cornered. And creating a hostile work environment where if she doesn't participate in the sexual innuendo, nudity and gender jokes is as much sexual harassment as trying to blackmail someone into having a sexual encounter. Why is it so hard to understand that sexual or gender jokes, and sexual innuendo are just not appropriate for a workplace? I've been in the workforce for 27 years and never worked in an environment where that was acceptible in the work place. I've gone outside of work with coworkers and at happy hour down the street, etc, it's free game and everyone can voice those jokes if they want. But then people have a choice to participate or leave. They don't have that leeway in a work setting where they have to stay and complete their work. And for the record, I'm a guy and I find that attitude to be pretty offensive and fully consider it to be creating a hostile work environment and inappropriate for a professional setting.[/quote]
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