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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why do these girls engage in binge drinking, put themselves in compromising positions and then express outrage over a college adjuducation when they themselves don't even recall what they may have done while inebriated?  [/quote]

If you walk around wearing expensive jewelry in a high crime area, and someone steps up to you, knocks you over the head and robs you, you are indeed stupid, and you probably won't recall what happened to you. It doesn't make the robbery any less of a crime.

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If you are drunk and give the expensive jewelry to a homeless person because you feel bad for him in your drunk state and the next morning you don't remember it ... that does not mean the homeless person stole from you. [/quote]

You clearly don't know the law vis a vis rape. The law requires consent and consent cannot be given in an intoxicated state. I really hope you are 14 or 15 years old. That way your ignorance would at least be understandable. Men are going to have to figure out some way to control their violent tendencies while drunk. If they can't, maybe a law should be passed requiring them to take impotence-inducing drugs. Predators shouldn't be given passes to continue terrorizing others. The possibility of this consequence to misbehavior might just reveal that men have more control then they think or let on.[/quote]

Obviously that raises questions about the level of intoxication required to preclude consent, the difficulties inherent in establishing when that level of intoxication was reached, and the possibility that intent was lacking if the alleged perpetrator was also intoxicated.

If a young adult who voluntarily gets drunk and ends up blowing guys who themsevles have also been drinking wants a pass, but expects the recipients of her sexual favors to be punished, she had better find a damn good prosecutor.  [/quote]

First, you say "voluntarily gets drunk." In many of these instances, the men are hiding the amount of alcohol that is in the drinks they are providing young women. Yes, girls are stupid to drink punch without knowing what is in it, but they may quickly become much drunker than they have experienced before, and without realizing it, while the men intend for them to get extremely drunk in order to take advantage of them.

Second, plenty of women regret things they did when they were drunk, but hardly any woman anywhere lodges a formal accusation of rape or sexual assault for that reason. These crimes are underreported, not overreported--your accusation is a red herring, and doesn't negate the fact that lots of women are legitimately assaulted.

Third, I would love to see a link to an example of a woman who charged someone with rape after she gave him a blow job in a situation with no coercion.

[b]Finally, the fact that you (whether you are one person or the same person repeatedly posting) are so determined to not see how these situations could be rape makes me think that you may be a person who has sexually assaulted people in your past. You sound desperate to let the men off the hook here. [/b].

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That's exactly the feeling I got as well from the PP (or is it multiple PPs?)'s posts. In addition, the idea that someone who "had been drinking and blowing guys would want to get a pass but have the recipients of her sexual favors be punished" makes no sense. Get a pass from what? No one is walking arond asking for a tally of other people's blow jobs. The act is either consensual, in which case no one wants to punish anyone, or it's coerced, and that's rape. [/quote]

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