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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=present_tense][quote=Anonymous][quote=present_tense]Thanks, 10:02, for your helpful response. On the face of it, this doesn't sound like a healthy way to go given the nutrients we get from fruits and vegetables.

I feel like I'm fighting a battle I can't win against [b]the "lose weight" instead of "get healthy" mentality.[/b] I get the impulse to force change we can see, but losing weight is only one of several health concerns we ought to have.

Gonna read the sources you posted. Thanks again.

Jason [/quote]
I'm the one who posted the keto links and I'm guilty of focusing on losing weight instead of getting healthy. I'm sure it's flawed thinking, but I feel like if I can just lose those 40-50 lbs, [i]then[/i] I'll start being healthy.[/quote]

You're not alone, and on one level, I understand the thinking. I just want to challenge you to think long-term. If you can learn how to live a healthier lifestyle--including nutrition, fitness, sleep, and stress--then you can live that lifestyle the rest of your life. And I promise you, I truly promise you, that the weight will slowly come off as you get healthier. It might not feel as dramatic as some of those before and after pictures, but I've seen what happens when people take the slower, more sustainable route. They change their lives forever, and they look good doing it. Better than they ever thought they could.

I appreciate your honesty. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help, or convince you of my way of thinking. :)

Jason[/quote]

NP. Honestly, I appreciate your tone, but in [i]my[/i] experience, like that of the other PP, you're flat out wrong. I usually eat about 80-90% whole foods, cooked at home, from as scratch as practically possible (I do use canned tomatoes, for instance), with two servings of different veggies, and while I'm not running or doing cardio, I walk everyday and care for two children ages 3 and 3 months. Basically, my diet and fitness focus on health. My weight has only trended up in the past few years and it's going to take some serious focus to even get south of 200. It's just a real pisser to be told, repeatedly, that if only I did [i]this[/i] my body would do [i]that[/i].[/quote]

But you're not telling us the whole story. How many calories a day are you taking in? [/quote]

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