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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I agree. As a parent of a minority with a 2050 SAT score, I think he got in because of wonderful recommendations and amazing leadership qualities. [b]BYW, the difference in score made no difference in his performance at HYP[/b]. He works very hard and is excelling. Was he less qualified than others? I do not believe so. This is what schools mean when they say they consider "the whole student." [/quote] That might be true for your child, but overall minorities do considerably worse at selective schools. This disparity disappears once you correct for SAT scores. In addition, many URM students leave the more challenging majors at a much higher rate than their white and Asian counterparts. In one study I saw, 85% of AA students were in the bottom 40%, with 53% in the bottom 20%. Only 5% were in the top 20% of the class. [/quote] Source or it never happened. This site has had a rash of faux CEOs, faux "neurobiological researchers" (different DCUM forum) and the like, all with their private sets of BS facts and stats.[/quote] Here's a source fro you: http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-sad-irony-of-affirmative-action[/quote] Thanks for digging out a source, I do appreciate it! I'm pretty cynical about DCUM factoids, and it shows. Thanks again. I do notice that the case discussed, involving Texas, involves larger discrepancies than the Harvard examples above. From the article: "For example, according to data released by the University of Texas in connection with Fisher, the mean SAT scores (out of 2400) and mean high-school grade-point averages (on a 4.0 scale) varied widely by race for the entering class of 2009. For Asians, the numbers were 1991 and 3.07; whites were at 1914 and 3.04; Hispanics at 1794 and 2.83; and African-Americans at 1524 and 2.57." So the SAT discrepancy was as large as 400 points. [/quote]
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