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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] No. Private institutions should not be required to define as "attributes" only things like test scores that certain groups believe would inure to their advantage. [/quote] This. It's wrong to think that colleges should only value SATs and GPAs, for several reasons. First, at the most selective universities, [b]almost everyone[/b] has high SATs and GPAs. Across all races and ethnic groups, test scores are high. Most top universities could fill their incoming classes 5X or 10X with kids who scored over 2200 on the SAT. So, in a pool of thousands of applicants with SATs of 2200+, you need additional, non-scholatistic achievements outside of school just to stand out from the other applicants. Second, colleges want future leaders and creators, and these things aren't measured by high ACTS and/or SATs. Basically, colleges want to be able to claim famous grads as their own, which leads to a better applicant pool, and the virtuous circle continues. So colleges will take promising artists and musicians and politically-active kids who show initiative and dedication ("passion"!) to something besides grinding it out at a desk for four years. Of course, Asians can definitely play this game -- the "passion" game -- too. What's wrong is to think that *only* SATs and GPAs should count, either as a practical matter or for serving the colleges' own interests. [/quote] So you're implying that Asians only have a passion for test taking and studying? You should probably take a look at Cali's UC system. They've had no race based affirmative action or legacy for almost two decades now, but they can take into account anything else about a student including extracurriculars, economic background, and any number of soft factors that you seem to think that Asians systematically lack. Many UCs are over a quarter to a third Asian and some are even majority Asian. I highly doubt that the profile of Asian students that apply to the best UC's are all that different from the Asian students that apply to the Ivies and quasi-Ivies. Please stop spewing your racist garbage. [/quote]
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