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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel sorry for the five equally qualified white kids who got rejected so this sob story could play out.[/quote]

hmm I am willing to bet that a larger percentage of acceptances are taken up by less qualified "legacy" applicants and the relatives of well connected people.  Historically, this subset has been predominantly WASP [/quote]

Yup. And I'm a connected WASP. Though, unless your family donated a building, most of the time you still need good numbers to get accepted.[/quote]

No, I don't think that's true anymore.  Even if your family donated a building, you still need good numbers (and our family did donate the equivalent of a building).  Ivies draw internationally and have billions in endowments, there is no reason for them to take a rich but subpar student who will probably not graduate.[/quote]

You guys can speculate online all day long... the reality is that we have two kids, in two of the schools originally listed, and there are absolutely still legacy admits.  Students who are not stupid, but are far far from outstanding or exceptional, either academically or in their other accomplishments.  There is nothing else about how they got into these 2 schools than who their family is and what their families have contributed.

When I went to an Ivy for undergrad (which was granted a little while ago!) there were so many legacy admits.  I was in an Econ class with one of them from a bank family (literally, last name same as a bank at the time), and I am not exaggerating, I really think he either was functionally illiterate or maybe had a serious learning disability.  He got through by bribing classmates to do his work, and it got to the point where I think he couldn't find people to bribe.  I don't know if he ever even graduated, but obviously he had a career waiting for him after college whether he graduated or not.

My kids' stories are not quite as blatant as this, but there are still many kids who certifiably did not get in on the standards the schools applied to everyone else.

Legacy admits are alive and well in the Ivies.  Maybe more subtle, and maybe a bit harder, but absolutely there nonetheless.  So to the PP who said you feel bad for the 5 white kids who didn't get in, since this is absolutely a far bigger % of historical admits to Ivies than strictly affirmative action (because, please do not be deluded, there are kids of color who score incredibly well on these tests too - just not as many as there should be), but PP are you even madder at the legacy admits on behalf of those 5 students you're so worried about?[/quote]

I'm the third PP.  I suppose there are legacies that are subpar.  The ones I know graduated summa, magna,... and got into top graduate programs.  Obviously not slouches by any measure.

The legacies admit of course exist but I doubt Ivies want to "dilute their brand" by admitting stupid ones.[/quote]

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