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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It absolutely makes sense to have more AAP classes than GE in a grade in a center  school.  It draws from many schools.  Were you not aware your neighborhood school was a center school when you bought your house?[/quote]

Oh for God's sake... this tired argument again?  The point many of us are trying to make is that there [b]should not be a public school where Gen. Ed. students are in the minority[/b].  Thus, the argument for either making centers AAP only or doing away with centers altogether, vastly reducing the AAP population, and keeping AAP students in their base school. [b] I'm not sure why a public school system is spending so much time, energy, testing, and busing on this one group of kids, when we are all paying taxes into this system[/b].[/quote]

Re: your statement in bold above: Exactly the same can be said about ANY group of students that receives any form of any specialized attention. "Why spend time, energy, testing busing on this group of kids?"

Would you really dream of making that same statement about other groups? Would you complain in just those words about, say, [b]special ed students? Students who need remedial help because they speak another language or have parents who don't speak English well enough to help their kids academically at home? Students who need specialized bus pickups because they use wheelchairs? Students to whom the county schools provide aides in the classroom so they can even BE in a public school setting?[/b]
No. You wouldn't dare. People recognize that we NEED to help the kids who need remedial help, specialized transportation, special ed classes, aides in the classroom. We provide these things for them with our tax dollars because we recognize as a society that they have a right to get to school and get the best possible education there.

But God forbid that we should recognize that kids who are academically advanced need any form of help too, so that they don't lose all interest in school when so-called "differentiation" doesn't work (and it does not). They're supposed to just go with the flow and take whatever their base school can give them. Not all of them have rich parents, or parents who can drive them to center schools, or parents able to provide academic help and challenge at home. But these kids should not get any special attention, in your world, because they might cost a buck. If you said that about any other group, this thread would blow up with outrage at you. Yet you can say it about these kids. Hypocrite.
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Let me get this straight:  you are seriously, and with a straight face, arguing that the vast majority of AAP kids can be equated to the kids described in bold above?  You honestly think that academically advanced kids, most of whom are [b]not gifted[/b], should be afforded the same consideration as those who have actual *special needs* and require all the help they can receive just to get to school each day and learn?  You're saying that we should spend the same amount of money as we do on these children who honestly need remedial help, on children who are "bored" in school and might need differentiation, by providing said children with a special center in which they get slightly advanced classwork?  I am actually embarrassed for you that you would even equate AAP kids with all the truly special needs kids in the area.

The one and only thing you got right is that we as a society should absolutely pay to educate those kids who need "remedial help, specialized transportation, special ed classes, aides in the classroom. We provide these things for them with our tax dollars because we recognize as a society that they have a right to get to school and get the best possible education there."  However, nothing in that description applies to AAP kids.  Kids who are truly gifted, so much so that they [b]cannot be educated in a general ed classroom,[/b] should also be entitled to a specialized learning environment.  But children who are simply bored in the classroom?  Sorry, but I'm not interested in supplementing their education.  And I doubt many other people are either.  [/quote]

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