Reply to Why are you an atheist?

Forum Index » Religion

Reply to "Why are you an atheist?"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Word 15:38. the whole notion of an all powerful, all loving, all knowing god is an impossibility, a logical fallacy. He can't be all three.[/quote]
Only according to limited human logic[/quote]

What Bible are you reading... God dies cause suffering...
Nevermind... I don't even feel like getting into it...
But I will say, if you don't believe in God how can you presume to know his plan?[/quote]

I don't presume to know His plan because, you're correct, I don't believe such a plan exists because I don't believe such an entity exists.

However, you believe in God, and [b]you[/b] don't know His plan, either. You simply accept that (a) He has one and (b) it is based on His being an "all powerful, all loving, all knowing" entity. You have faith in that.

My point, as I said at 15:38, is that if God is omnipotent and omniscient, and all things are according to His plan, then all natural catastrophes are His doing - either through causation or (since He is omnipotent) through inaction. At the very least, a "loving God" would warn people the disaster is coming so they can prepare or get out of the way. So, we must assume that the suffering, pain, death and loss associated with natural disasters are part of God's plan, otherwise why would a loving entity allow them to happen?

What I find annoying is that after such a catastrophe that God either didn't prevent or at least didn't warn people about, the faithful thank God that the damage wasn't worse, and for sparing those who survived, without any mention of the fact that God was responsible (either through commission or omission) for all of the tragedy.

So, if God exists, (and, no, I don't believe He does), I would argue that if God is omnipotent, he causes significant suffering and if His "divine plan" requires the suffering of children, in particular, then I'd call Him a sadist for being an omnipotent entity that can't achieve his plan without torturing children. If God is omniscient (but not omnipotent), then I'd again call Him a sadist for allowing all of those disasters that kill/cause children to suffer to happen without at least warning people, and for not having a plan that doesn't require torturing children.

Thus, if God is either omnipotent or omniscient, He's got a funny way of showing His love for those who worship Him. You get to take it on faith that all this suffering is for a good cause in the end.
[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics