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[quote=Anonymous][quote]Yes, Asian Americans value education highly, more so than other racial groups. However, the United States is a melting pot society. I believe that my parents placed too much pressure on me to succeed in school. I do not wish to raise my children in the same way... but I MUST because an Asian college applicant is judged on how he performs with respect to other Asians and not other people.

Insulating groups from competition never yields good results. Insulating Asians (who currently place significantly more pressure on their children with respect to schools) from competition from others racial/ethnic groups (and vice versa) through affirmative action will only serve to perpetuate stereotypes by CAUSING Asians to be "overly competitive." If you were a high school student of Asian decent wanting to go to a top 20 school, wouldn't you spend all your time on maintaining a 4.00 GPA and trying to get a perfect SAT score after seeing the data points year after year demonstrating discrimination against Asians?

Also, need I remind you of discrimination against Asians in the workplace?

Yes, Asians have average incomes that are higher than that of whites. But this is because Asians are much more likely to be 1099ed as opposed to W2ed (more risk more average profit) and because Asians work more hours than whites. Do you really think Asians are well represented in the corporate world? Obviously not. Do you really think that Asians want to graduate college and work for their parents in their nail salons, Chinese restaurants, or dry cleaners? Obviously not. Do you really think discrimination against Asians in academia doesn't translate to the professional realm? Obviously not.

Being able to say "I went to a good university" is the one of the only things an Asian-American can say that will help them break into the high paying world (of medicine, engineering, corporations, or wherever). We do not have friends and family with big-time connections. We also look different and are subject to our own stereotypes. For instance, Asians in entertainment (movies) today play the same role as little people did in Medieval times--we are something to be laughed at. We need to make it on our own. The only way to demonstrate that we are "qualified" is to go to a good school. Unlike blacks and Hispanics, there is no sympathy towards Asians. The presumption is that all Asians are well-off and don't need help.

People like to say that Asians should value test scores less and their "well-roundedness" more. However, how do you expect us to value test-scores less, when year after year admissions officers require more from us than any other group. And if the method is truly "holistic", is there anyone here on this blog that believes that if the last names and the race identifying information were redacted from applications, the number of Asians at the top schools would remain the same?

Lastly, I hear a lot of "fairness" arguments such as African Americans being disadvantaged because of the atrocities of the past deserve help. Albeit this is true. Who committed and benefited from these atrocities? Whites or Asians? Its Whites. But who pays for the cost of affirmative action at top schools? Asians and only 
Asians.

If you do not believe me, take a looks a UCLA and Berkeley's admissions over the past 20 years (after prop 209--no affirmative action bill). The percentage of Asians at these schools back in the early 90s were about 17%, today (without Affirmative Action) Asians make up over 40% of the student body. At comparable private schools Asians have remained at about 17% of the student body for the past 20 years, despite the college aged population more than doubling.

Finally, is it fair to help a wealthy African American or Hispanic applicant over a underprivileged Asian? The answer is NO. In America people who are born rich die rich, and people born poor, die poor (no matter the color of your skin). Black or not, if you are rich, fairness should mandate you receive no help.[quote]

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