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[quote]You can go to KSA and meet millions of women who need their husbands' and fathers' permission to study, work, get married, travel etc.   
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 Ok, and your point is? because KSA i guess is the Muslim epitome?  :roll:  KSA is the most un-islamic country that I know, they have taken a very tribal tradition of oppressing woman that they have been using for centuries and hide under the flag of Islam to justify oppressing their own women. This my friend has nothing to do with Islam, they were living this way hundreds of centuries before Islam and unfortunately that is still going on to this day. I applaud women in that area who refuse to subjugate themselves to this patriarchal society. The difference between you and me is that i know and recognize Injustice when i see it and I do not assign it to Islam just because the majority of the country is Muslim. You should watch this Ted talk about Manal Al Sharif, the saudi woman who dared to drive and got arrested. Funny enough she still loves Islam and know how to recognize that her oppression has nothing to do with the religion she follows :http://www.ted.com/talks/manal_al_sharif_a_saudi_woman_who_dared_to_drive.html

[quote]Do you deny that under shariah, a husband may divorce his homemaker wife of twenty years and send her out of the door with three months' maintenance?  [/quote]
I think I have responded to that on my earlier post, please refer to that- We do not believe on alimony i have already discussed that. I am a woman and i don't believe a man should take care of me for the rest of my life because we were married, now shoot me! Oh and no he can't send her out of the door, the rule says the wife stays in the house after the divorce for 3 months ( I guess to figure out what she is going to do next). Trust me in practical terms, this doesn't happen, I left the day i wanted a divorce ( my choice) and I never asked for 3 months alimony (my choice)

[quote]Do you deny that in women-initiated divorces a woman is required to return her dowry?  While we are at it, do you deny that women have no independent right to initiate divorce?
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Again, refer to my previous post about this- Yes, the woman is required to return the dowry if she wants a divorce and the husband refuses the divorce, he is entitled to get the dowry back if he ASKS for it. Which in practical terms again never happens, I did not return my dowry and was never asked to and  I initiated my divorce  :lol:

[quote]What YOU need to do is stop thinking that experiences of Muslims in the West are reflective of what shariah expects them to do.[/quote]

Uhm sorry, I spent half of my life outside of the west  :roll: in MUSLIM countries  :roll: and nothing that you are saying is reflective to what is happening there, so stop drinking the coolaid. My family still lives in a 99% majority Muslim country so yeh I know what is going on in Muslim countries and I know what we believe in and yeh I am reflective of muslim women, i am not the EXCEPTION whether you like it or not i am the NORM. Does it mean some Muslim women are not oppressed? victimized? raped? beaten? living as second class citizens? Nope, I am not denying that and never have, just like  some American Jewish, Atheists, Christian , Buddhist women are oppressed, victimized, raped, beaten every day. How about you go and talk about how Christianity, Judaism or Atheism is the reason for those oppressions? Why is is that Muslim Criminals are criminals because of their religion??  :roll: They are criminals and they would be criminals regardless of what religion they happen to follow, so again, have at it!!!!

[quote]Girl...you have nothing to teach me, I've been married to a Muslim man for many years, I can teach classes on the matter.   Yes, shariah has many unattractive parts and in my experience, it makes an average Muslim highly uncomfortable when you point them out. At that point they either say you're "spewing" or depart with huffing and puffing.   It takes an evolved person to look at their tradition through the lens of critical thinking. [/quote]

No, you can't teach classes on the matter, sorry, don't go around spreading the ignorance. You've been married to a Muslim man so this makes you the expert in this  :roll: I guess if i am married to a Doctor then I can go around and open my own practice and start teaching medicine  :roll:  Yes you might come to learn about your husband's religion through him and how he practices it, this in no way makes you an expert on the subject as you may know that if you want to learn about Islam you do not look at Muslims, you go to the Quran, you go to the source, but i am sure you knew that since you're married to a Muslim!

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