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My marriage and divorce took place according to the shariah, nothing i have said is the result of the West, i was married according to shariah and divorced according to shariah. There are no separate rules of marriage/divorce depending on where you live, the rules are the same. Uhm Sorry, this is what Islam says should happen to women, nothing i have said/shared is just what happened to me , it is what happens to muslim women everywhere, it is the rule of Islam, you can refute it all you want, does not keep me up at night as i know what Islam said since I follow the damn thing. Why do you think you are the expert on this? LOL.. And no, us Muslim women don't want marital assets to be split down the middle, that does not interest us in any way so I don't know why you think you know what the solution is for muslim women in divorces. The way it works is this, we don't have to contribute squat in the home while married, every $$$$ we earn is ours and ours alone to do what we see fit, and when we get married we get a dowry from our husband, so that dowry and the salary you've been earning while working is what you put in a bank account so you have a nest if you get divorced. No , we don't believe that a man has to take care of you for 20+ years just because he married you, that does not make sense to me and no that wouldn't make my life better, and we have all seen the nasty divorces and nasty alimony fights in non muslim countries, so yeh that is not a perfect system either, to each their own.[/quote]
There is no "we", you don't speak for every Muslim woman. You have no way of knowing what all of them want or believe.  Stop making a virtue out of necessity.

I didn't say I know what the solution is. I simply pointed out that money wise, a divorced Muslim woman makes out worse vis-a-vis a non-Muslim one,or, more accurately, shariah views on divorce severely disadvantage women.  Your dowry isn't yours to keep if you're the one wanting to divorce, incidentally.

Not every Muslim woman works and she needs her husband's permission to do so, anyway.  Yeah, that nest egg worked out beautifully for Shah Bano, didn't it.[/quote]

uhm... Okay! I am done with this because again I don't like to debate just for the sake of debating. You choose to believe whatever you believe and you choose to make it your truth and live with it. Now, your truth is not The Truth and what you are trying to spew about Islam is FALSE and you can repeat it a hundred times, won't make a difference. My story is the story of millions of muslim women sorry to disappoint you, i am not the exception in the muslim community, i am the norm, really we do live like this. I have yet to meet a muslim woman asking for permission to go to work lol, your arguments are actually laughable to any muslim reading this. This is why I told you before stop thinking you are educated on this topic just because you read a book, an article or watched something on tv. Do you really believe this is how Muslims live?  And no I don't agree that a Muslim woman makes out worse vis-a-vis a non Muslim woman  after her divorce,  your argument is assuming all non-muslim women who get divorced get this huge pack of money, and personal property, and I guess in your argument you are forgetting that in non-muslim societies some women are the ones paying the alimony so yeh I bet those women feel grateful :) In what world do you live? Maybe you should get out of your bubble sometimes and start talking to real people.....[/quote]
You can go to KSA and meet millions of women who need their husbands' and fathers' permission to study, work, get married, travel etc.

Do you deny that under shariah, a husband may divorce his homemaker wife of twenty years and send her out of the door with three months' maintenance?

Do you deny that in women-initiated divorces a woman is required to return her dowry?  While we are at it, do you deny that women have no independent right to initiate divorce?

What YOU need to do is stop thinking that experiences of Muslims in the West are reflective of what shariah expects them to do.

Girl...you have nothing to teach me, I've been married to a Muslim man for many years, I can teach classes on the matter.   Yes, shariah has many unattractive parts and in my experience, it makes an average Muslim highly uncomfortable when you point them out. At that point they either say you're "spewing" or depart with huffing and puffing.   It takes an evolved person to look at their tradition through the lens of critical thinking. [/quote]

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