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Now, Carholics generally understand the Bible contextually and as allegory.  It is not a literal accounting of historical fact.  This is ver different from Protestant fundamentalist denominations that interpret the Bibke in a literal sense.  It is because of this that Catholics can easily co-exist with the theory of evolution while fundamentalists seebitvasca threat to their faith.

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I'm sorry, but in my experience it is not at all true that Catholics "generally understand the Bible contextually and as allegory".  If that was the case, then 1) why were wars fought over the doctrine of transubstantiation?  And 2) why is it that women cannot be priests, or that gays cannot marry?[/quote]

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1.Those wars you mention were fought before Catholics changed their understanding of the bible.  so it goes.

2. They kept the parts of the bible that served their purposes and built them into church doctrine.[/quote]

But my point is that all of those are examples of Catholics taking things extremely literally.  I'm not aware of any Catholic that understands Jesus to have been speaking metaphorically when he said "this is my body, this is my blood," even though (IMO) that is the most natural way to understand that.

Perhaps you mean that Catholics don't take it literally when Jesus said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven?  Of when he said give to everyone who begs from you, or let him who is without sin cast the first stone? [/quote]

Are you Catholic PP? Orthodox? Both of these Christian Churches believe that Christ is wholly present in the Eucharist.

Protestantism is wholly defined largely in opposition, rightly or wrongly, to the Roman Catholic Church.  I don't think the other ancient Christisn churches - the Orthodox, Orientsl and Coptic - have a dog in the Catholic-Protestant fight.  Let us remember that the Protestant Reformation was largely a Westn European phenomenon initially aimed at reforming the Roman Catholic Church.

In terms of theology, ther is no a biblical foundation for "transubstantiation." The majority of the world's Christisns - Catholics, Orthox and Oriental -believe the Eucharist to be the true Body and a Blood of Christ.  This is a belief held in tradition by the the most ancient Christisn communities even before the New Testsment www written down, hence there is no real need to prove it based on the Bible.  For Protestant churches adhering to sola scriptura that believe that Christ is "fully present" - some Anglican, Lutheran and Calvinist churches - do look to the a bible to find their justication, basing their justification on the words of Jesus at the Last Supper as presented in the three synoptic Gospels - Matthew, Mark and Luke - and St. Paul's First Epistle to the Corinthians.[/quote]

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