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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=takoma]The wealthy have always received better care than the poor.  That will probably remain true.  However, a neutral panel, even one composed of government bureaucrats, may even the playing field.  As several PP's have said, as long as resources are limited, some will be denied care.  To blame the panel for those, without giving credit for the fact that more people may live because of the panel, is grossly misleading.[/quote]

The government has no business in health care. Period. They don't get to decide who lives and who dies in this regard. That's not their function by law.

Even the playing field sounds an awful lot like share the wealth. Disgusting that those who pay the bulk of the care for others will be the ones denied care.[/quote]

I think it's disgusting you apparently think organs should be auctioned to the highest bidder.  And since most people in this country have private insurance I'm offended at your sense of entitlement that the wealthy somehow are paying for the healthcare of others.[/quote]

What I'm saying is you don't dumb down healthcare in a country to make it accessible to all. You don't cripple it. Two tiers of service is used in a lot of countries and the wealthy DO get better care. But people like you would scream "It's not FAIR".

If most people in this country have private insurance, then there was no need for Obamacare. I thought the premise for that was SO many were uninsured?[/quote]

I have no idea on earth what "dumbing down healthcare" has to do with a rational policy on allocating organs for transplant.  You do understand that there aren't enough organs, and that these organs don't come with instructions on who should get them?  It in no way "cripples" healthcare to have a system that allocates those organs according to a set of medical criteria, rather than accordingly to whoever can pay the most for them.

Also, can you really not understand that if 85% of Americans have health insurance, that still leaves 47 million Americans without health insurance? [/quote]

You're right. That means the Feds should be OUT OF IT. Leave it to the docs.

47 million is a false number. [/quote]

[b]I do think it should be up to the doctors, but that doesn't mean any patient's doctor gets to say "my patient will benefit"-- it means you get a bunch of doctors together to decide what the criteria will be and that applies to all the patients.[/b]

And I have no idea what "47 million is a false number" is supposed to mean.  The current population of the US is 314 million, so 15% of that is 47 million.  I think 85% is a good estimate of the number of people with health insurance, but if you have a better number feel free to cite it.  Mostly I was trying to explain in simple terms how it could be simultaneously be true that most people have private insurance AND many people are uninsured.[/quote]

And that will not be happening in regards to ObamaCare. You will have government officials making the determination. And for those that want to bring up insurance companies, it was not the insurance company denying a transplant in this case. [/quote]

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