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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To the PP - there is nothing wrong worth a life consisting of a hard days work for men and motherhood for the women if that is what they want. The problem here is there are no choices. If a boy is given a chance to go to college - with parents paying or even just parents or a school guiding the process and providing info but no money - and he chooses to be a tow truck driver, that is fine. Here there are no choices beyond motherhood or manual labor because the kids don't seem to have the basic education that you would need to manage even a retail store.

I think we  are not going to see the oldest girls orevenboys having as many kids as their parents. I can see them ending up with large families of 7-9 kids, not 20 because they have had to do so much child rearing and bear so much cost - financial and lack of attention -due to their [b]parents' desire for 20 kids.[/b] They may not subject themselves to it again.[/quote]

But their parents did not desire 20 kids.  They were open to however many kids God gave them.  In their case, it happened to be 20.  They were exceptionally fertile.  But 99.9999% of families who are open to life have nowhere near as many children.  That's applying a contraceptive mentality to the way being open to life actually plays out.  The contraceptive mentality says "I am in control.". The open to life mentality says "God is in control."

Most open to life families in my community have 5-7 children.  Many have lost children to miscarriage.  Many more have adopted, because their own fertility was compromised.  Truly large families are exceptional.  Not because the parents desired a certain number;  that's just the way God shaped their families.[/quote]

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