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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For the two previous posters above, can you please name the Ivy? I'm thinking there are varying experiences at, say, Brown v. Princeton or Cornell v. Harvard. It would be helpful for me to know. Thanks.[/quote] I have two at different ivies and many fellow physicians with students at ivies/T10--together we cover all ivies except brown and cornell. They all have excellent outcomes, as do Duke, Hopkins, etc. Why are they all roughly the same? They are "Tier 1" per med admissions committees, meaning they have the most rigorous peer groups to compete against. MIT might be slightly harder as far as peer group, and can get an extra slight boost above Tier 1, as does studying engineering at a Tier 1, but all the rest are basically the same as far as peer group. Test required data that is out so far indicates ivies are indeed basically the same as they were pre-pandemic: 25-75th%ile is close to 1470-1580, median is around 1520-1530 with minor variation among ivies. Duke and Hopkins are in the same range. Top LACS like WASP were(and probably are again) generally 1420-1530 for the 25-75th%ile, with a median around 1470; UVA and William and Mary were 1330-1490 for the 25-75th%ile, ie the top quarter overlap with the TOP HALF at WASP/TopSLACs, and that same top quarter at UVA/WM overlaps with the topTHREE Quarters at ivies/Stanford/Hopkins/Duke. Med admissions are quite well aware of these peer facts, they get GPA distribution from each undergrad school (and MCAT distribution) and judge the GPA accordingly: A below-average 25th%ile GPA from an ivy is basically treated the same as a 75th%ile GPA from UVA. It is not OVERALL GPA it is BCPM or stem GPA that is scrutinized. It is true. That is how it worked 22 years ago when I served on my T5 admissions committee, and it is how my med-school friends who currently serve on it explain it now. It is how my colleague has said his T40ish med school works. [/quote]
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