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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why are any of these terms considered insults? What exactly is wrong with a student who grinds towards their desired college/major/career goal, strives for the best possible outcome, and curates a compelling narrative for decision-makers who control access?[/quote]

Some of the people here are party animals and use terms like those to insult serious students. From my perspective, as the parent of a serious student who hates parties, that’s bad.

Serious, book smart students tend to use those terms to refer to students who aren’t very book smart or interested in learning, even in fun, low-stress situations.

Students who love reading, doing experiments and learning in general may not like exams, term paper deadlines or harsh grading curves, but they may desperately want to hang out for a few years with other students who started out reading encyclopedias, almanacs and dictionaries for fun, not just go to college to prepare for a career.

Then maybe they get to Super Selective U and find out that 75% of the other students are regular OK “curated strivers” who have great applications but have never read a book for fun in their lives.

For the party animals who are mainly interested in career prep, that might be a great outcome. For the dictionary readers, that’s like being locked in a coffin.

My son is in the second category. I wish he could have had more great random discussions at pizza parties where everyone was drinking soda, not so many occasions where he had to try to connect with the party animals.

I was in the middle and could have fun in both kinds of crowds, but some people are more specialized.[/quote]

Regular OK “curated striver“ party animals who aren’t very book smart or interested in learning?

You are just as bad.

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What do you even mean here? You mean you think kids who want to talk about great books with other kids who’ve read the books shouldn’t get a chance to do that, even if their parents pay $100,000 to make that possible? What is so terrible about giving a kid a chance to have interesting conversations about great books?

And what’s so terrible, on the other hand,  about being a party animal kid who wants to have fun in college, and do the bare minimum needed to have a good job, and truly doesn’t want to hang out with the College Bowl kids?

It takes both kinds to make world. I just think that the dictionary readers are less common and generally less respected by society, until their weird knowledge can be monetized. They need sheltered gardens of their own, at Caltech or Reed or some place like that.

If curated party animal kids end up there and try to do the readings and take classes or at least activities seriously: Great.

If they go have AI do their work, skip most of the readings and aren’t doing much to keep student organization alive, that’s a little unfair to the students who went to a SLAC or top research university to try to live the life of the mind. [/quote]

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